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Old 03-06-2015, 09:05 AM   #1
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Excelling at NL Holdem

Just wondering what are people's thoughts on this new book.

http://www.dandbpoker.com/product/jo...o-limit-holdem

I have Hellmuths books and they are not great, I have read some books of one or two others which are good. Looking forward to Liv Boeree has written..
They are all way better than me so I'm sure I'll learn something.
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Old 03-06-2015, 06:22 PM   #2
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It seems the information in this book is already out there in other books. That said, if Jonathan Little is behind this, then Im sure Ill get something out of it, as I have from other books of his.
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Old 03-07-2015, 08:46 AM   #3
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It seems the information in this book is already out there in other books. That said, if Jonathan Little is behind this, then Im sure Ill get something out of it, as I have from other books of his.
While some of the info is similar to other books, the vast majority of it is new. I learned a TON working with all of the authors and I am confident all readers will too.
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Old 03-07-2015, 11:40 AM   #4
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Re: Excelling at NL Holdem

When I get back into poker book buying, this will be one I get.
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Old 03-11-2015, 08:14 AM   #5
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Re: Excelling at NL Holdem

Phil Hellmuth/Liv Boeree --- Short stacked play

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Old 03-11-2015, 12:02 PM   #6
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Hellmuths other books are not great,,but as far as I no he's always working on his game improving his game which is why he's still winning he's doing something right
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Old 03-11-2015, 06:01 PM   #7
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Phil Hellmuth/Liv Boeree --- Short stacked play

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Indeed! I enjoyed the chapter.
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Old 03-16-2015, 02:24 AM   #8
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This appears to be primarily a tournament book?
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Old 03-16-2015, 12:57 PM   #9
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This appears to be primarily a tournament book?
It is a book on No-Limit Hold'em, although some chapters will pertain primarily to cash games and others will pertain primarily to tournaments.
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Old 03-20-2015, 11:41 AM   #10
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haven't read that one
It isn't released until June I think
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Old 03-21-2015, 03:57 PM   #11
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Re: Excelling at NL Holdem

This book is full of advice from leading poker experts on how to study, play & master NLHE.

I am going to consider buying this book, once I've absorbed everything in this thread on 2+2 that gives you some great advice on that very topic for free:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-guide-902936/
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:13 AM   #12
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Getting closer to the release of this book, really looking forward to it.
Just wondering Jon, what way is it layed out?
Does each player talk about specific strategy, stages of the game, even their experience playing poker.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:47 AM   #13
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Getting closer to the release of this book, really looking forward to it.
Just wondering Jon, what way is it layed out?
Does each player talk about specific strategy, stages of the game, even their experience playing poker.
Each author generally writes about a specific topic that they are an expert in. The book is laid out into three main parts, general strategies, the technical game, and the mental game. Each part has multiple chapters.

Here is a rough table of contents.

Intro
The post-boom evolution in poker Chad Holloway

Strategies
Equity, position and aggression Evan Jarvis
Lower buy-in strategies Chris Moneymaker
Moving up in stakes Ed Miller
General tournament concepts Scott Clements
Advanced tournament strategies Matt Affleck
Satellite play Bernard Lee
Understanding tells Zachary Elwood

Technical
In-depth range analysis Alex Fitzgerald
Short stack strategies Phil Hellmuth and Liv Boeree
Value betting Jonathan Little
Final table play Jonathan Little
Heads-up play Olivier Busquet
Game theory optimal play Will Tipton

Mental
Mental toughness Patricia Cardner
Eliminating tilt Jared Tendler
Poker hypnotherapy Elliot Roe

Conclusion
Great plays from great players Mike Sexton
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:21 PM   #14
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTH4KNiMyjU

Phil Hellmuth on short stack strategies..... really?
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:57 PM   #15
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Phil Hellmuth on short stack strategies..... really?
Ha I thought he was doing it for the cameras but then when I seen the title of the clip hellmuth folds,, wow,, but that was ten years ago I imagine, maybe he's studied
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Old 05-12-2015, 05:21 AM   #16
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He also done a lot of crap back then for the cameras and maybe he hadn't honed the power of the white magic yet
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Phil Hellmuth on short stack strategies..... really?
If you do not get the book because you think one of the authors is not good at poker (despite $18,000,000 in live cashes) you will miss out on tons of amazing information. Even if you only get something out of one of the chapters, the book is well worth the price.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:19 AM   #18
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Really looking forward to Busquet's chapter.
Tipton also but i fear that it will be a very basic introduction to game theory as it relates to poker.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:08 AM   #19
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If you do not get the book because you think one of the authors is not good at poker (despite $18,000,000 in live cashes) you will miss out on tons of amazing information. Even if you only get something out of one of the chapters, the book is well worth the price.
That's not what I'm saying, simply pointing out the contrast between good short stack play and Phil Hellmuth. The book itself might be good value, didn't say anything about that.
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Old 05-12-2015, 03:14 PM   #20
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Short stack strategies Phil Hellmuth and Liv Boeree
Did they actually collaborate on this chapter, or is it two entirely separate articles?
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Old 05-12-2015, 04:04 PM   #21
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Did they actually collaborate on this chapter, or is it two entirely separate articles?
They wrote it together although it is clear when each person is talking. They compare and contract old school versus new school short stack strategies.

Fwiw there is very little I did not 100% agree with in the book. I am completely happy with it and I am sure the vast majority of readers will love it.
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Any updates on release date? Is it still on track for June? When can we expect it? Will it be released on Kindle at the date of launch?
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Any updates on release date? Is it still on track for June? When can we expect it? Will it be released on Kindle at the date of launch?
The book will be released at a lunch party at the WSOP on 6/13/2015. It will be available for sale in bookstores and online either on that day or shortly after. I am not sure on the exact release date of the kindle version but it will be either when the physical book is released or shortly after.
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Old 05-13-2015, 12:55 PM   #24
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There's an extract online ATM , I'd post a link but I'm not sure if I'm allowed,, looks good
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Any word on when Volume 2 on your cash games is going to be available on Kindle?
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