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05-02-2008 , 11:06 AM
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I preordered as well. Total including shipping came out to $14 & change. VERY good price. I've been tracking it so I believe I should get it today. Reading for the weekend!!
If you can bundle your orders into groups of $25 or more, you also get free shipping.
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05-02-2008 , 11:45 PM
I just ordered mine through Amazon , it has to be shipped to Australia , man it's gonna be a looong wait but I still get it before it gets here to our shelves..
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05-03-2008 , 12:40 AM
Just received mine today in time for the weekend. I'll post on it this weekend. Probably on Sunday. Kind of sad to the read the foreward by Chip Reese.
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05-03-2008 , 02:17 AM
very curious 2 read this 1 i kno gus is a very mythological thinker and would be interested as in hearing this thoughts
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05-03-2008 , 04:00 AM
I hope he doesn't say anything rude, like calling Gobboboy a freak and weird dude...
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05-03-2008 , 09:53 AM
I’m about a third of the way thru the book. I like it. It seems to me to be very much like a MTT training video from Cardrunners or Poker X Factor. Much like someone took the video and wrote out the script. The big plus is your able to ‘listen’ to Gus Hansen and see his hole cards. Great book so far.
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05-03-2008 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJon89
very curious 2 read this 1 i kno gus is a very mythological thinker and would be interested as in hearing this thoughts
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05-04-2008 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by krypto
I’m about a third of the way thru the book. I like it. It seems to me to be very much like a MTT training video from Cardrunners or Poker X Factor. Much like someone took the video and wrote out the script. The big plus is your able to ‘listen’ to Gus Hansen and see his hole cards. Great book so far.
Yeah, I picked up on the same feel from the book. Sort of more of an explanation on how he thinks about every play as opposed to how someone like Harrington uses examples of a certain play. He's sort of narrating you through the plays whereas Harrington goes in depth into every aspect of the hand. Makes it a faster read. I have liked it so far & would recommend. It would be really cool if other players released such books. It's sort of general in info but still a goldmine into knowing how he thinks. For $14 it's a steal.
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05-05-2008 , 10:55 AM
got mine today; unfortunately i'm at work, but i read a few pages in. very friendly writing style; feels almost like talking with one of your "home game buddies" about a tourney the day after.

it's gonna be a long work day.
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05-05-2008 , 11:21 AM
I'm about 1/3 through it and I think it's an excellent, very enjoyable read. I really appreciate what Gus has done here.
You can read it straight through but to get full value out of it you probably have to review it a few times and analyse exactly how Gus accumulates all these chips, especially in the countless small pots that he takes down. In the "Stats and Tips" section at the very end Gus does some of the work for us but I assume it's worthwhile to go a little deeper into it.
My favourite hands are Gus' big all-in moves, often with massive overbets. Gus seems to enjoy them a lot too, but he explains the logic behind them very well.

And finally, Gus' honesty is very refreshing. There are many hands where Gus admits that he screwed up and also that these bad plays can put him on serious tilt. And in one hand he makes the nut flush on the river without realising it and his hopeless river "bluff with Ace high" that gets called works out nicely in the end. It reminds me that I shouldn't be so hard on myself when I mess up in a tournament. When the tourney is over there's enough time to dwell on mistakes, but as long as I'm not out there's no reason to blow up and bust out, because you might still win, just as Gus did.
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05-06-2008 , 03:50 AM
I just got this book.

You're right. It's a fast read, but worthy of review and study. Hansen does admit his mistakes too or where his big stack bluff battleplan goes way wrong.

Why has no one published something like this before? It's refreshing to have the winner of a major tourney take us through the whole thing.

I have seen videos of this kind of thing, but the spoken narration keeps pace with the action and you lose the gritty details that Hansen provides.

In fact, somehow, the videos I've seen make winning a major tournament seem easy.
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05-06-2008 , 09:20 AM
I am about half way through the book now and have to say this is a great book.

I find it surprising that Gus has been able to get away with so many steals from the button, cut-off and 2 off the button though... Not a lot of players were playing back at him as often as I would expect. He must have picked up about 1/2 of his stack playing this way.

Perhaps he got away with it because he's Gus Hansen and that no one wanted to risk playing post flop with a top pro. I think if an ordinary joe was making these moves, someone would be playing back and you can get yourself in trouble or be facing very difficult decisions on the flop or preflop when someone moves over the top with say.. a medium pair.

Also, I wonder if he omitted some hands that he folded pre-flop but would have played under different circumstances. Example would be holding a medium hand like K-To in the small blind and facing a raise and reraise from a mid and late position raiser/reraiser and going through the process of folding some playable hands preflop when facing some strength.

I am just nitpicking here - this book is so good that it actually diverted my attention from Harrington on Cash - not a lot of books can do that for me.
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05-06-2008 , 02:12 PM
He certainly enjoys using the exclamation points!!!
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05-06-2008 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by avatar77
I am about half way through the book now and have to say this is a great book.

Perhaps he got away with it because he's Gus Hansen and that no one wanted to risk playing post flop with a top pro.
I'm thinking of changing my screen name to DNegreanu. It may not improve my game, but I think it will improve my results.
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05-06-2008 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
He certainly enjoys using the exclamation points!!!
Yes! He does! I wonder what the exclamation point count is in this book! It is probably significant!

Other than that, great book, and great insight into a truly original poker mind.

THE HUN.
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05-06-2008 , 03:47 PM
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I'm thinking of changing my screen name to DNegreanu. It may not improve my game, but I think it will improve my results.
No, not really. All it will mean is that you will call more often with you saying "I knew you had me beat with kings" or "I knew you had me beat with trips" or ......

THE HUN.
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05-07-2008 , 10:02 AM
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...this book is so good that it actually diverted my attention from Harrington on Cash - not a lot of books can do that for me.
Agreed. I had to put down the cash books when this shipped because I was losing a little focus looking forward to reading this.

I am about halfway through, and fighting to find some time to finish it.
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05-07-2008 , 04:49 PM
Great read, did the whole thing this morning.

So much of his strategy contradicts conventional tournament thinking. The constant defending particularly, also Gus' fondness for the Krag,Qrag,Jrag hands.

Also I desperately want to play one of these big-buyin tournies now, seems like you can get away with SO much! Good luck getting away with 2 button raises in a row in a $50 stars tourny!
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05-07-2008 , 05:01 PM
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Why has no one published something like this before? It's refreshing to have the winner of a major tourney take us through the whole thing.
I think it's pretty obvious why no one has published something like this before: it's a lot of work for a very low probability of reward!

Did you watch the coverage of this tournament on TV? Gus was always shown getting up from the table and talking into a tape recorder after each hand (speaking in Danish). This must be extremely distracting.

I doubt many players would think it was worth it considering they would need to make the decision to record all their hands prior to knowing how far they would make it in the tournament.
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05-07-2008 , 05:33 PM
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Why has no one published something like this before? It's refreshing to have the winner of a major tourney take us through the whole thing.
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I think it's pretty obvious why no one has published something like this before: it's a lot of work for a very low probability of reward!

Did you watch the coverage of this tournament on TV? Gus was always shown getting up from the table and talking into a tape recorder after each hand (speaking in Danish). This must be extremely distracting.

I doubt many players would think it was worth it considering they would need to make the decision to record all their hands prior to knowing how far they would make it in the tournament.
I think most people took TXaces' question to be rhetorical.

I seem to recall Hansen was doing the tape recorder thing at several tourneys - I think he was doing it during the WSOP.

As to the book itself, I'm half way through and agree that it is a very refreshing approach. The tone is very conversational, as other posters have noted, although every once in a while there is an overly formal or even awkward choice of words that I attribute to Gus being a non-native English speaker/writer.
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05-09-2008 , 10:46 AM
BTW someone should package this book with a DVD of the event coverage - that would be a sweet marketing ploy.
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05-09-2008 , 10:49 AM
VERY entertaing & EASY read!! Loving it. Very interesting to see just how much math he actually uses, then sometimes just throws caution to the wind.
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05-09-2008 , 11:32 AM
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Two : how to play against Gus. Reading this book reinforced my own idea of how to play against small-ballers like Gus, Hellmuth, Negreanu, etc. Four words : Re. Raise. Pre. Flop. Three things these guys are trying to achieve with frequent small opens : gain the initiative ; keep the pot relatively small pre-flop ; narrow opponent's range according to whether (and how) he calls or reraises. Deny them all of these by simply reraising with all your best 15-25% of hands (depending on position) and folding the rest. And make it a proper 3-bet, at least 3x. If they four-bet, or call and bet into you on the flop, do your best. If they call/check, auto-continuation bet.
Calling raises from the blinds and then leading post-flop is also a tactic that works well against the Gus strategy. I'm only through Chapter 2, but he mentions several times how his opponents so frequently "check to the raiser" that he just assumes that's what will happen. When they bet instead of check, he doesn't seem to like it. He even admits to being thrown off of his game when Patrick Fletcher continually calls his raises from the blinds, then leads at the flop. Eventually, Gus realizes these bets are more of the probe variety then showing any real strength, but that is when you need to change gears yourself, and start re-popping before the flop again. I think that is the way to go: switching between re-popping pre-flop/c-betting post-flop and calling pre/leading out post. You need to play pots with these guys and keep the pressure on; use their own style against them.
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05-09-2008 , 01:00 PM
Gotta love Gus' attempt at a sports analogy when discussing short-handed play:

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It is like playing baseball with only four outfielders.
Guess they don't play much baseball in Denmark.
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05-09-2008 , 01:12 PM
I guess his editor doesn't follow baseball either...
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