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06-06-2008 , 03:01 AM
Thanks for the final verdict on the issue.
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06-07-2008 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shizzle12345
this book is really good for the games, maybe gus can write a book about NLHE cash games too?
On full tilt i have never seen Gus play NLH cash games. He mostly plays Omaha.
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06-14-2008 , 04:26 PM
This may have already been said, since I didn't read all of the responses, but...

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It is like playing baseball with only four outfielders. Singles turn into doubles, doubles turn into triples, and bunting might be a very effective weapon because of the lack of defenders.
Makes perfect sense if Gus is a slow-pitch softball player, or maybe a girl he was with exposed to him. Slow-pitch softball has 10 players, 4 of which are outfielders most often. Bunting would be an ideal strategy if all you had were the 4 outfielders.

Book is $15 at Borders, trying to decide whether saving a couple bucks is worth waiting for it.
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06-14-2008 , 04:53 PM
It is apparently a better seller than the publisher imagined. I sold out my supplies, tired to order more, and was told the first printing was sold out. Next printing should be in first week of July.
Mike
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06-14-2008 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by twoplustwostore
It is apparently a better seller than the publisher imagined. I sold out my supplies, tired to order more, and was told the first printing was sold out. Next printing should be in first week of July.
Mike
Does that make a first printing extra valuable?
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06-14-2008 , 05:14 PM
Only until the 2nd comes out
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06-14-2008 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Reality Cheque
Does that make a first printing extra valuable?
+EV = +extra valuable?
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06-14-2008 , 05:17 PM
Maybe I should put up my signed copy up for bid. Of course, it is signed by me.
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06-15-2008 , 10:26 AM
I loved this book, its amazing and brought my poker mind to another level ^_^
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06-15-2008 , 01:43 PM
Just finished my read of the book and definitely enjoyed it. Besides the numerous grammatical and hand errors (e.g. boards not matching the action Gus was talking about), I thought it flowed relatively well.

Regarding his advice, it definitely made me think of poker tournaments in a much different way. However, I realize that I'm no Gus Hansen.

#1 My mind doesn't work like his...I'd need to do some serious number-crunching away from the tables to make the mathematical plays he does.

#2 Gus benefits from an image that was born of WPT Season 1 where he made some very light calls in front of the cameras. As a result, players still believe he is an absolute wild man...even the pros still comment on it. Players either call him down with inferior holdings when he actually holds the goods or are too afraid to tangle with him b/c of "his call with anything" image. To play the way he does, I'd need to work on my image a bit.

#3 Some of his calls even by his estimation were bad. It's one thing to get 4:1 when someone is all-in or close to all-in, but when there's more $$ to bet on the flop, turn, river...well, you're really not getting 4:1 anymore. I'd be interested to hear some further discussion by him on this. Maybe I view this as wrong...I'm far from a tourney expert.

#4 To play this style, you'd need to be very good at post-flop play. I think many readers of this book will do the quick calculations of "I'm getting x:1, I call" and then get themselves into trouble when they flop a small piece.

All in all, a good read with a refreshing format for a poker book. I will definitely be doing some experimenting with some of the tactics he mentions, but to completely try and emulate his play would foolish without a lot of experience IMO.
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06-17-2008 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by twoplustwostore
It is apparently a better seller than the publisher imagined. I sold out my supplies, tired to order more, and was told the first printing was sold out. Next printing should be in first week of July.
Mike
The publisher seriously underestimated this book and underpriced it.

Mason even alluded to this.

This book probably could have sold for twice the cost and it would not affected sales figures the least bit.

Its the same publisher as the Pigeon books so maybe they used the sales figures for that book as a barometer - bad mistake!
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06-18-2008 , 04:18 AM
Anyone here looking to sell their already read copy of Gus's book?

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06-18-2008 , 05:23 PM
I have definitely decided to get back on the tourney trail. I just purchased Every Hand Revealed and Kill Everyone. They appear to be exceptional texts.
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06-18-2008 , 07:27 PM
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Anyone here looking to sell their already read copy of Gus's book?

It's a unique book and well worth reading.

Amazon should have more on June 19th...
Plus Amazon has 7 used dealers with a copy.
(Note a used dealer should have at least 97-98% positive rating...
Or they are probably misrepresenting and/or have poor shipping/communication).

http://www.amazon.com/Every-Hand-Rev.../dp/0818407271
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06-18-2008 , 07:46 PM
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I will say this without having finished it (I read my part first obv), if he actually plays like this (and there's a decent chance he's lying about it to get further action) then he's ridiculously exploitable playing against good players. The most exploitable I have ever seen.
Keeping this post in mind...
The book may actually be a gigantic level by Gus.

He's always thinking 2-3 steps ahead...
And the idea that Gus would CLAIM to reveal all his "trade secrets"...
But instead churns out a tome that is largely fiction...
And of no help to his opponents...
Is the only thing that really makes any sense.

Roughly 30-40% of the important decisions he makes in this tourney/book...
Are basically a coin flip/hunch either way...
And often declared to be at odds with his "normal" style.

It's safe to say that Gus' play with remain loose, aggressive, unpredictable...
And in line with the theory laid out in Chen's "Mathematics of Poker"...
Virtually unexploitable.
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06-18-2008 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RedManPlus
Keeping this post in mind...
The book may actually be a gigantic level by Gus.


It's safe to say that Gus' play with remain loose, aggressive, unpredictable...
And in line with the theory laid out in Chen's "Mathematics of Poker"...
Virtually unexploitable.
I wouldn't go THAT far.
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06-18-2008 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RedManPlus
It's a unique book and well worth reading.

Amazon should have more on June 19th...
Plus Amazon has 7 used dealers with a copy.
(Note a used dealer should have at least 97-98% positive rating...
Or they are probably misrepresenting and/or have poor shipping/communication).
And we all know how accurate their arrival dates are.

June 30th is when the new printing gets from the to distribution - then shipping time from distribution.

RE: Low feedback Marketplace sellers. For the most part they are drop-shippers or remainder/liquidation houses. They frequently don't have inventory once you order or they have remainder marks on their "new" product. In the case of a new title like this - they are probably in the drop-shipper category and have to depend on a distributors having stock.
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06-19-2008 , 12:33 AM
Can any of the math he uses, be used in cash games to make decisions as well?
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06-19-2008 , 01:52 AM
yeah was thinking bout this 1 sounds good
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06-19-2008 , 11:36 PM
Just got the book today, and read the first one eighth of it. It has a fairly relaxed casual tone, which makes it a fun read.

I like some of the analysis he puts into some of his hands when making a decision, but I wouldn't recommend using his particular brand of loose aggressive play unless when you're playing against somebody who over plays their hands (from an initial glance a lot of the big pots he wins seem to be due to his opponents over playing their hands because of Gus' specific table image). I feel like the book could use a disclaimer "Warning: the plays in this book are performed by professionals, and should not be attempted at home"
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06-20-2008 , 01:32 AM
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Can any of the math he uses, be used in cash games to make decisions as well?
if ur playing people in short situations...
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06-20-2008 , 12:53 PM
This is a great book. I find it very entertaining. He has a really humorous style I enjoy and it gave me more insight into the loose ultra aggressive style. It is a book of examples rather than a book of theory, but you can read his thought processes through those hands which makes it a really good book. But as a theory book I would not recommend it.

Oh come on, the book does not need an exclaimer. If you don't figure out that there is a reason behind what he does after reading the book then I wonder if you actually have read the book. I think he is quite explicit when he is telling of his reads and that there is no way he would have made that play if it wasn't for his good read.

The book has brought me some inspiration and insight into the game I found to be very valuable. Mostly though those concepts are given implicitly and you have to abstract it yourself from the text which may be a challenge for some.
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06-22-2008 , 01:11 PM
Maybe the best book I've read, I already know that sometimes you should raise on a draw and starting hand requirements from every other book ever made....this is gus really playing a tournament and showing how he won, attacking the blinds relentlessly, avoiding other big stacks, leading out, etc. good stuff
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06-24-2008 , 02:20 AM
Finally got this book, and quickly read up to Crucial Hand #1 (what a bad spot the BB put himself into there).

Pretty easy read with a casual flow I appreciate, as I do struggle to get through most poker-based books (due to the rote language used in some, reminding me of the horrors of reading and skimming through IT manuals in my earlier career).

I probably could've read another 50 pages easy but I wanted to prepare myself to take notes from the top as I do want to form a more complete picture along with the discussion that's been presented in this thread, derailments be damned.
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06-24-2008 , 12:32 PM
Back in stock! Got here earlier than expected.
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