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Old 12-03-2010, 01:27 AM   #76
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Re: Dusty Schmidt writes new book "Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth"

Is there alot of people using phils advice? In recent years he has been the butt of alot of jokes. The title acts like we take him serious.
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Old 12-03-2010, 07:00 AM   #77
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Re: Dusty Schmidt writes new book "Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth"

I think very few serious players take him seriously, but a lot of amateurs probably do
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:18 PM   #78
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Re: Dusty Schmidt writes new book "Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth"

Kudo's to Dusty for doing what hundreds of others wish they could..... Yes Phil has 11 bracelets, yes he has made millions of dollars and yes he is an idiot! If Phil would just play poker and keep his mouth shut he would he liked by more and hated by less. I don't think the ones that "hate" Phil Hellmuth per-say hate him because he is a good poker player, they hate him because of his lack of common sense!
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Old 12-03-2010, 04:13 PM   #79
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Re: Dusty Schmidt writes new book "Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth"

I've been waiting for a long time for this book. There are many stupid advices (Dusty Schmidt call them misconceptions) in books and forums that tilts me a lot.

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but who am i to question dusty schmidt..
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:29 AM   #80
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Re: Dusty Schmidt writes new book "Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth"

The toc is here:
https://dustyschmidt.net/hellmuth-synopsis/

I will definitely buy the hard copy in January as it looks like I am a victim of some of the misconceptions.

Phil Hellmuth is a poster boy for bad advices but frankly, as xxl_w1 mentions, the bad advices are all around us in books and in forums (including this one).
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:22 AM   #81
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Is there alot of people using phils advice? In recent years he has been the butt of alot of jokes. The title acts like we take him serious.
I think leatherass put this title because Hellmuth is famous for the bad advices from Play poker like the pros not because we take him serious. And the majority of the 50 misconceptions aren't Hellmuth misconceptions.
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Old 12-05-2010, 02:38 PM   #82
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Re: Dusty Schmidt writes new book "Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth"

Favorite Hellmuth quote:

"Power comes from the barrel of a gun".
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Old 12-05-2010, 02:55 PM   #83
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Favorite Hellmuth quote:

"Power comes from the barrel of a gun".
Hopefully this quote is covered in the book because power is made in a firearm as soon as the bullet leaves the rifling. Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth indeed!
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Old 12-05-2010, 03:51 PM   #84
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Re: Dusty Schmidt writes new book "Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth"

fantastic title :-D
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:28 PM   #85
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Re: Dusty Schmidt writes new book "Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth"

Seems like someone who needs a poker image piggy-backing off someone with a poker image by insulting them.

I wonder if there's a chapter entitled "How to buy in for the exact amount the fish is sitting with (to the cent) so that you ruin poker forever" or "How to hit and run"?

I'm the last person to be a hater for the sake of being a hater, but I mean... cmon. It's like a guy who makes most his money from bumhunting calling another guy who plays tournament players and writes a book about waiting for 99+, AQ+ to play a hand bad. Really? Cmon.
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:39 PM   #86
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Re: Dusty Schmidt writes new book "Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth"

has the pdf shipped yet?
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:11 PM   #87
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Seems like someone who needs a poker image piggy-backing off someone with a poker image by insulting them.

I wonder if there's a chapter entitled "How to buy in for the exact amount the fish is sitting with (to the cent) so that you ruin poker forever" or "How to hit and run"?

I'm the last person to be a hater for the sake of being a hater, but I mean... cmon. It's like a guy who makes most his money from bumhunting calling another guy who plays tournament players and writes a book about waiting for 99+, AQ+ to play a hand bad. Really? Cmon.
you should read his pitch for the book before posting this . There is other items to look at . The problem I have is that most of the 50 misconceptions are items that have been covered and I dont believe most players with some experience take any given scenario as a "play one way" approach.
he has positioned himself as someone who has been successful based on treating his playing as a business, with attention to detail , and bonuses , game selection etc. and now says that what we have learned is wrong. Im sure from all 50 items there is some good advice
but I feel hes looking for a niche to slip into from a marketing standpoint,
and Im not talking about the title.
My impression of him is that he is a rare breed of grinder, who has great discipline and able to 12 table etc.
Writing in his premise about how many hands he has seen compared to a live player doesn't impress me as most are throw -aways to begin with.A year of playing, is a year of playing, and there are things gained and lost by playing live or online. If playing millions of hands was truly the answer then Dusty would be playing with Ivey and Dwann on a regular basis, and correct me if Im wrong be he's not a winner on the big boy circuit. What Dusty has to realize is that he is successful because of his business model and going out and trying live tourneys(ie world series) because your a good grinder online playing 12 tables
is wishful thinking, which makes me question this guy as a knowledge source quite a bit.Ill have to see some stellar reviews to pick this one up. sorry dusty,
If this was a continuation of his first book with a more in depth look into some of the subjects he touched on in that book, Id probably give it a read, but this........ nah.

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Old 12-06-2010, 09:16 PM   #88
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I wonder if there's a chapter entitled "How to buy in for the exact amount the fish is sitting with (to the cent) so that you ruin poker forever" or "How to hit and run"?
What about a chapter entitled: "Why buy Shoota's book for $2500 when you can buy mine for $50?"

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I totally believe you here.
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:24 PM   #89
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Re: Dusty Schmidt writes new book "Don't listen to Phil Hellmuth"

hellmuth is getting a check from the author guaranteed. in fact, i'd imagine some pretty good fake lawsuits around this to promote it.
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:16 AM   #90
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What about a chapter entitled: "Why buy Shoota's book for $2500 when you can buy mine for $50?"



I totally believe you here.
My book and LA's are for two different types of player, and there's nothing wrong with either style. They're simply different and not comparable, as I think you're suggesting.

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