Originally Posted by javirap
Hi verneer, I just bought your book and it is excellent congratulations, the best book I read for Micro.
I have some question about some thing on the book that I would love if you could answer me.
Page 77 (call 3 bet) you don't explain the concept of impliead odds and this is something I don't use, why do you get 27 to 1 implied odds. If you have another villain in the hand your implied odds increase and you can call even with less odds, like a call 12 or something like that?
Looking back, I don't think I used the term "implied odds" 100% correctly there. In said example, it costs me $1.85 to see a flop. There is already $2.60 + $2.60 + $0.75 + $0.35 = $6.30 in the pot so I'm getting 3.4 to 1 direct odds. If I call, both villains have $22.40 behind relative to my stack and collective $44.80 (which I would win in the best case and rare scenario).
So I'm paying $1.85 to try to win $44.80 (behind) and $6.30 (currently in the pot) so $44.80 + $6.30 = $51.10.
$51.10/1.85 = 27.62. Hence the "implied odds".
How do you calculate that you have 17,5 to 1 implied odds?
You are calling the 3B with suited connector, suited connectors are
not like a set where you search for the set, with the SC most of the time you will have projects and from what I read of playing SC if you hit or fold you are burning money because what you hit are draws most of the time. I see for the hands in the book that you like to call the SC in position, but there is little information about how to play those kinds of hands
What do you recommend me to read about this topic?
In general, I agree that frequently calling with suited connectors can be burning money. By itself, calling would be bad for the reasons you mentioned, but given his 3-bet size, his stats, and the fact I have position, calling here is +EV.
To answer your other question, there isn't a great guide to playing suited connectors out there. You can look at this article I've written about playing different sort of hands and their potential:
On page 118 when you CC KQs, I understand the call on the flop, the villain
will always cB this flop and you have some equity but the call on the turn:
becuase of his 1/2 pot bet size you need 33% of equity and you have 9 outs of the flush, 3 outs of the K and 2 outs of the Qs this is a equity to improove of 30%. He is double barrelling why you don't put him on an Ace? In this case your equity is not enough
It's close and he might not have an ace (as was the case). There are also the implied odds of hitting and then getting a bet out of him. Direct odds are much less set in stone in NLHE than they are in LHE.
On Page 121, you are playing vs an unknown player, and you call his raise from UTG, why you don't 3Bet? 3bet with AQ is not the standard move againstna an unknown player?
In the flop there are flush draws, some gutshots too, and you are in a 4 way pot, there are lots of ackward cards for you in the turn, why you don't protecto your TPTK?
AQo is a routine call for me vs. an UTG range in most spots. 3-betting is fine sometimes as well, but I find that I get more value out of calling. On the flop, once UTG bets that flop, I think calling is the only good play. Raising to "protect" can put us in a lot of trouble.
Hope that helps! Thanks for the great questions.