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 07-07-2012, 07:31 AM #181 grinder     Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: offering the best staking deals Posts: 642 Re: Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition Hi guys, I am a micro stackes full ring player who started playing about a year ago. I was a little bit over breaking even after half a year, and than decided to buy "Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition" and also get some coaching from Verneer. I have read a few poker books before, but none helped me as mutch as Verneer's. The book containes everything a begining player needs, in order to have a solid winrate at the micros. I don't think there is any other similar book availeble at this moment. I posted 2 graphs below, that show my evolution as a poker player. before reading the "Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition" and coaching after reading the book and coaching Thank you Verneer
07-07-2012, 11:45 AM   #182
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 Originally Posted by javirap Hi verneer, I just bought your book and it is excellent congratulations, the best book I read for Micro. I have some question about some thing on the book that I would love if you could answer me. Page 77 (call 3 bet) you don't explain the concept of impliead odds and this is something I don't use, why do you get 27 to 1 implied odds. If you have another villain in the hand your implied odds increase and you can call even with less odds, like a call 12 or something like that?
Looking back, I don't think I used the term "implied odds" 100% correctly there. In said example, it costs me \$1.85 to see a flop. There is already \$2.60 + \$2.60 + \$0.75 + \$0.35 = \$6.30 in the pot so I'm getting 3.4 to 1 direct odds. If I call, both villains have \$22.40 behind relative to my stack and collective \$44.80 (which I would win in the best case and rare scenario).

So I'm paying \$1.85 to try to win \$44.80 (behind) and \$6.30 (currently in the pot) so \$44.80 + \$6.30 = \$51.10.

\$51.10/1.85 = 27.62. Hence the "implied odds".

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 Page 78 How do you calculate that you have 17,5 to 1 implied odds? You are calling the 3B with suited connector, suited connectors are not like a set where you search for the set, with the SC most of the time you will have projects and from what I read of playing SC if you hit or fold you are burning money because what you hit are draws most of the time. I see for the hands in the book that you like to call the SC in position, but there is little information about how to play those kinds of hands What do you recommend me to read about this topic?
In general, I agree that frequently calling with suited connectors can be burning money. By itself, calling would be bad for the reasons you mentioned, but given his 3-bet size, his stats, and the fact I have position, calling here is +EV.

To answer your other question, there isn't a great guide to playing suited connectors out there. You can look at this article I've written about playing different sort of hands and their potential:

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/bss/2142/1/

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 On page 118 when you CC KQs, I understand the call on the flop, the villain will always cB this flop and you have some equity but the call on the turn: becuase of his 1/2 pot bet size you need 33% of equity and you have 9 outs of the flush, 3 outs of the K and 2 outs of the Qs this is a equity to improove of 30%. He is double barrelling why you don't put him on an Ace? In this case your equity is not enough
It's close and he might not have an ace (as was the case). There are also the implied odds of hitting and then getting a bet out of him. Direct odds are much less set in stone in NLHE than they are in LHE.

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 On Page 121, you are playing vs an unknown player, and you call his raise from UTG, why you don't 3Bet? 3bet with AQ is not the standard move againstna an unknown player? In the flop there are flush draws, some gutshots too, and you are in a 4 way pot, there are lots of ackward cards for you in the turn, why you don't protecto your TPTK?
AQo is a routine call for me vs. an UTG range in most spots. 3-betting is fine sometimes as well, but I find that I get more value out of calling. On the flop, once UTG bets that flop, I think calling is the only good play. Raising to "protect" can put us in a lot of trouble.

Hope that helps! Thanks for the great questions.

 07-07-2012, 10:01 PM #183 adept     Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The land of underadjusting regs Posts: 818 Re: Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition I have an question. I am looking into buying this book but I am a bit confused, should I buy it from http://mtmicropoker.com/book.aspx or from http://professionalpoker.com/IP.php?...&productID=506 Basically what place is better to buy from?
07-08-2012, 07:45 AM   #184
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 Originally Posted by LWallet I have an question. I am looking into buying this book but I am a bit confused, should I buy it from http://mtmicropoker.com/book.aspx or from http://professionalpoker.com/IP.php?...&productID=506 Basically what place is better to buy from?
For the eBook it doesn't matter. For the print ones, I ship and personalize the ones from MtMicroPoker. What country do you live in? There might be a free shipping option via Amazon if you live in Europe.

07-08-2012, 09:56 AM   #185

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 Originally Posted by verneer For the eBook it doesn't matter. For the print ones, I ship and personalize the ones from MtMicroPoker. What country do you live in? There might be a free shipping option via Amazon if you live in Europe.

I just checked and saw that amazon sells your book too.

07-08-2012, 10:11 AM   #186
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 Originally Posted by LWallet I live in Canada Toronto. I just checked and saw that amazon sells your book too.
Ordering from Canada, do you still go through Amazon.com or is there is special Amazon for Canada? What is the shipping there for Canada?

I think given that it's Canada you're best of going through MtMicroPoker - I can ship it in the morning.

 07-08-2012, 09:39 PM #187 adept     Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The land of underadjusting regs Posts: 818 Re: Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition There is amazon.ca for Canada but they do not have your book. So I will be ordering the book from MtMicroPoker as you suggested in a couple of days. Thanks for the prompt responses.
 07-10-2012, 10:18 AM #188 adept     Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The land of underadjusting regs Posts: 818 Re: Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition Just ordered the book, looking forward to reading it. Hopefully it will not take long time to arrive :-)
 07-17-2012, 07:27 AM #189 stranger   Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1 Does anyone know if some store in NYC is carrying this book? I'm from Europe and will be spending the next couple of days there.
 07-28-2012, 10:54 PM #190 centurion     Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia. Posts: 121 Re: Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition How long would it take to ship to Australia? Contemplating between buying the eBook or get a paperback.. hrmm.
 07-29-2012, 12:06 AM #191 centurion     Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia. Posts: 121 Re: Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition Nvm, bought the ebook. I'm experiencing lag in Adobe Digital Editions while going to the next page is there anyway to fix this?
 08-01-2012, 08:25 PM #192 journeyman   Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 231 Re: Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition This book has helped me reach the NL100/NL200 level, but I am struggling to do more than breakeven now that I am past the micros. Any tips on the next thing I should do? Coaching? Video Site?
08-01-2012, 09:58 PM   #193
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Re: Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition

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 Originally Posted by Neuroscience Nvm, bought the ebook. I'm experiencing lag in Adobe Digital Editions while going to the next page is there anyway to fix this?
I'm not sure - I'd contact Mike at ProfessionalPoker.com - he is in charge of the eBooks.

08-01-2012, 10:00 PM   #194
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Re: Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition

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 Originally Posted by WillowUfgood This book has helped me reach the NL100/NL200 level, but I am struggling to do more than breakeven now that I am past the micros. Any tips on the next thing I should do? Coaching? Video Site?
I'd grind out those (or 50NL) limits for a while and try to build up a bankroll. Thinking about what gives you the most problems and try to figure out WHY it gives you problems.

 08-02-2012, 12:13 PM #195 centurion     Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia. Posts: 121 Re: Building a Bankroll, Full Ring Edition If anyone has trouble with Adobe Digital editions lagging, change the compatibility to Windows XP. Where have you guys positioned your HUDs (SS please)? I'm using a 24" monitor (1980x1200) and 4 tabling and my hud gets in the way of things. I've set my hud like shown on page 33 of the book. Is there any way to break bits of the HUD e.g split it into 2 or 4 bits

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