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12-05-2015 , 08:55 AM
If we're talking about tilt though surely the relevant probabilities are the probabilities of it being the case that you got AA on the previous two hands, that you have had a bottom 75% hand for every hand in the last two orbits etc.
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12-05-2015 , 07:04 PM
Those are the ones people focus on the most. However, those probabilities are not really worth obsessing over. Suppose you offered someone even money every time they roll a dice and hit a 5 or 6, but they pay you for every roll of 1-4. In a big enough sample, there are going to be times when they manage to win 10 in a row. Getting fixated about the probabilities is often just a way for people to "tell a story" about how unlucky they are, when it's pointless to think about, and doesn't change anything anyway.

The only benefit I see out of it, is trying to see how to use it against fish.
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12-06-2015 , 07:44 PM
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So would you have the same reaction if an attorney, with the opposite opinion, had posted first?

And are you seriously trying to say no other attorney would give an opposing view?
If someone were to pay them I bet you could find several with a different opinion, probably as many different ones as you could pay for.
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12-08-2015 , 01:08 AM
Hi Everyone:

I just completed our press checks and expect the binding to be done Thursday evening, Dec. 10. So we're right on schedule.

Best wishes,
Mason
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12-08-2015 , 07:28 AM
ETA to receive a pre-ordered copy in Europe ?
10 Dec + estimated mailing period ?
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12-08-2015 , 12:17 PM
10 to 20 days depending on the country and mail service selected.
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12-08-2015 , 03:01 PM
Hey ya,
will there be a Kindle version? Thanks.

PS:
The cover is really great. A maze that leads to a stack of chips, love it!
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12-08-2015 , 03:30 PM
Yes. Not sure about time frame.
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12-08-2015 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by L.K.
Hey ya,
will there be a Kindle version? Thanks.

PS:
The cover is really great. A maze that leads to a stack of chips, love it!
Hi L. K.

It usually takes two to three weeks after publication of the hard copy for the kindle to appear.

Best wishes,
Mason
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12-10-2015 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by L.K.
Hey ya,
will there be a Kindle version? Thanks.

PS:
The cover is really great. A maze that leads to a stack of chips, love it!
When I went to the Amazon "Kindle Store" and typed 'Real Poker Psychology', I saw the book. It said that the release date is December 10.

Super nice cover. It says on the back cover that its already available as an eBook. I will be the first Two Plus Twoer to buy Real Poker Psychology at the Kindle Store. Its December 9 now, I'll be at the Kindle Store at the strike of midnight.

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12-10-2015 , 12:27 AM
I don't see it in the Kindle store, but I can see the paperback version available on Amazon UK so I just pre-ordered that.
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12-10-2015 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Little Jonat
When I went to the Amazon "Kindle Store" and typed 'Real Poker Psychology', I saw the book. It said that the release date is December 10.

Super nice cover. It says on the back cover that its already available as an eBook. I will be the first Two Plus Twoer to buy Real Poker Psychology at the Kindle Store. Its December 9 now, I'll be at the Kindle Store at the strike of midnight.

Hi Little Jonat:

My best guess on when the kindle will be available is about three weeks.

Best wishes,
Mason
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12-10-2015 , 01:44 AM
Hi Everyone:

The book is now available and we'll start shipping on Thursday Dec 10, so this thread is being locked and a new book review thread will be started.

Best wishes,
Mason
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04-15-2016 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LaProfessora
Positive Poker actually draws on a number of areas of psychology (e.g. motivational psychology, neuropsychology, sport psychology, positive psychology, personality psychology and more) in order to show how psychological principles can be applied by poker players (many of whom also suffer from depression, anxiety, procrastination, ADHD, and the like). Many players actually want to learn about clinical psychology and how it can help them improve their subjective well being (the basis of positive psychology) as well as their performance.


Positive Poker relies on a wide body of research (some of it meta-analytic in nature) to show why these strategies and techniques can work for many poker players.


Are there some people who are such special snowflakes that the concepts of any particular psychology book won’t apply to them? YES. My book is not for such people. My book is for people who want to learn how to improve themselves using clinically evidenced based psychology.


Let me give you an example of some clinically evidenced based psychology which you can then contrast with some of what has been written in this thread if you so choose.


Let’s take the 10,000 hour rule. This “rule” has been studied extensively for decades by many researchers and it holds true across many disciplines (chess, dance, math, sports, and more). K. Anders Ericsson is the leading expert in this area & he is cited in my book. He is the originator of the 10,000 hour rule and he found it over and over again no matter what type of expert he studied.


What is really interesting is that neuro-imaging techniques have been developed that allow us to view the brain in action. We can actually look at brains as they are learning and performing and we can compare expert brains to novice brains. Guess what? This has been done extensively by psychologists using all types of experts across many domains and you know what has been found over and over again? It takes 10,000 hours for neural circuits to fully myelinate and thus to fire most efficiently. This is the main physiological difference between expert performers and non-expert & there is no short-cut to this process. Myelination happens very slowly & occurs through the process of deliberate practice (not simply playing time). So this adds an additional layer to Ericsson’s findings.


Before anyone loses their mind and screams out that this cannot possibly apply to poker, let me advise you that associates from Ericsson’s lab have been in touch with me and studies are underway with poker players. I have no doubt the findings will be the same because you cannot short-cut the neurologic process of expertise development which occurs through myelination. The more interesting results will be around what specific types of deliberate practice are most effective for poker myelination.


While any one person may deny that my work is not applicable to his brain or his game for whatever reason he chooses - denying it doesn’t negate its existence for everyone else.

Tricia
Hi Everyone:

I had to bring this thread back to life. The 10,000 hour nonsense I believe is closely related to the idea of unconscious competence since to develop unconscious competence in an athletic sport requires a large amount of practice and repetition which could easily be thousands of hours.

Well there is a short thread in our "Psychology Forum" which I've participated in that is addressing this issue, and Posts Nos. 6 and 8 by Elrazor are just terrific and should be read by everyone interested in this stuff. Here's the link to the thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/26.../#post49812607

Best wishes,
Mason
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04-15-2016 , 07:03 AM
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There's an important concept known as "unconscious competence" which was popularized in the poker literature by Jared Tendler in MGOP. This book was reviewed by your colleague, Mason Malmuth, and he gave it an 8/10, which is a very good review.

It might surprise you to know that unconscious competence arises from fully myelinated neural networks in the brain which occur through a process of deliberate practice and the process of full myelination has been shown to take 10,000 hours. Important note: deliberate practice is not the same as seat time - it is an effortful process.

If you support the idea of unconscious competence, then you tacitly agree with the 10,000 hour rule because it is the only way that unconscious competence is developed. You can't have one without the other - clinical, scientific research has shown this many times.

Dr. Cardner
I also want to address the Tendler book where unconscious competence is addressed in many spots. Specifically, I gave the book a good review because I thought he understood variance and how it actually applies to poker reasonably well. But now that I have gone through his book again in much more detail, the rating of 8 is way too high.

I do feel that Tendler does in spots hit upon the right things relative to poker psychology, but a great deal of his work seems to be derived from the field of sports psychology which has very little to do with poker since things like speed, timing, and coordination are not important poker concepts. So I do not recommend his first book anymore (and I have not read his second book so will not comment on it).

Best wishes,
Mason
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04-17-2016 , 04:26 PM
Just picked up this book at Barnes and Noble look forward to reading through this thread as well.
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04-17-2016 , 05:11 PM
It's so funny to me that Mason writes "best wishes" to some posters and not others. Kind of a "screw you" to those that notice that sort of thing.
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04-17-2016 , 06:25 PM
Quoting from La Professora
"It might surprise you to know that unconscious competence arises from fully myelinated neural networks in the brain which occur through a process of deliberate practice and the process of full myelination has been shown to take 10,000 hours."

We saw in another post that full myelination was associated with expertise, this myelination took 10,000 hours, thus lending support to the non-neuroscience propositions that expertise in general takes 10,000 hours of deliberate practice to achieve.
Can we explain please how we then make the jump from the latter to the quote I just made, ie we are now saying that the 10,000 hours creates unconscious competence. How do we know this? Did someone go in and measure expertise at 10,000 hours, myelin sheaths, and unconscious competence? Or are we just saying that because they're expert then they must be unconsciously competent too?
If it doesn't refer to 'just sitting time' at the table it must refer then to deliberate practice? What does that mean, specifically? Just sitting and playing poker in a concentrated manner? I think that in this specific area of the debate the 'it's not like tennis' camp gain significant traction.
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04-18-2016 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LaProfessora
There's an important concept known as "unconscious competence" which was popularized in the poker literature by Jared Tendler in MGOP. This book was reviewed by your colleague, Mason Malmuth, and he gave it an 8/10, which is a very good review.

It might surprise you to know that unconscious competence arises from fully myelinated neural networks in the brain which occur through a process of deliberate practice and the process of full myelination has been shown to take 10,000 hours. Important note: deliberate practice is not the same as seat time - it is an effortful process.

If you support the idea of unconscious competence, then you tacitly agree with the 10,000 hour rule because it is the only way that unconscious competence is developed. You can't have one without the other - clinical, scientific research has shown this many times.

Dr. Cardner
There are a couple of points here I'd also like clarification on.

Firstly, how is causality determined in for unconscious competence arising from fully myelinated neural networks in the brain?

Secondly, can you link the study where deliberate practice over 10k hours to myelination?
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04-18-2016 , 06:38 AM
wow, that table of contents alone has me sold. Thanks for the bump
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02-02-2017 , 10:05 PM
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Hi Everyone:

I'm currently writing a new poker book called Real Poker Psychology and this will be the first book I've been an author on since 2004. We expect to release it around the end of the year.

Also, since I'm a mathematician and know little about psychology, this should make me uniquely qualified to write this book.

Here's the Table of Contents.

Best wishes,
Mason

About Mason Malmuth v

Acknowledgements vii

Introduction 1

Part One: Them Fluctuations
...Introduction 3
...Variance 4
...Variance is Your Friend 5
...A Mathematical Model of “Tilt” — Cause and Cure 9
...More on Tilt 14
...More Still on Tilt 18
...An Excuse to Lose 20
...A Note on Steaming 22
...Poker is Counter-Intuitive 26
...Rushes 28
...Running Bad and How to Handle It 33
...A Little More on Fluctuations 35
...Luck Versus Skill 38
...A Band-aid or a Cure 40

Part Two: How’s Your Poker Game? 41
...Introduction 42
...Play Your A Game — Why Wouldn’t You? 43
...Handling Pressure 45
...Being Unaware 48
...Craving Action 50
...Playing Too Many Hands 52
...The Maniac 54
...Evaluating Yourself and Your Opponents 57
...How to Become a Great Player 60
...Is It Better To Be Lucky or Good? 62
...10,000 Hours 65
...Low-Limit Hold ’em and Players Who Are Unaware 68
...Poker Magic 72
...Psychological Strength 76
...Mental Toughness 81
...Selecting the Best Game 85
...Thinking Fast 87
...What’s Not Important 90
...Why You Lose 93
...Being a Tournament Star 96

Part Three: Image 99
...Introduction 100
...Where Did My Image Go? 101
...Appropriate Image 104
...When Is a Dynamic Image Good? 108
...It’s How You Are Perceived 111
...Weak Tight Opponents 114
...What Your Opponent Thinks 117

Part Four: At the Tables 121
...Introduction 122
...No-Limit Hold ’em: Is it Too Irritating? 123
...Some Losing Concepts 127
...Suggestions for Professional Players 130
...Too Many Bad Players 133
...Why Do the Best Players Sometimes Go Broke? 136
...Why There Are So Few Great Players 139
...It’s Not What You Eat 142
...Danny Robison 145

Part Five: Tells 147
...Introduction 148
...The Value of Tells and Positive Reinforcement 149
...Visual Cues 152

Part Six: Other Topics 159
...Introduction 160
...Observations 161
...Staying Broke 164
...That’s What She Said 167
...The World’s Worst Player 170
...The Worst Plays in History 173
...Throwing Money 176
...Bankroll Management 179
...What Happened to the Superstars? 186
...Jackpot Games 189
...How Many Winners are There? 192
...Focus 194
...Fight or Flight 196
...Apathy 197
...Self-Confidence 199
...Over-Confidence 201
...When Running Bad, Some Players Take Shots at You 203
...Getting Your Nose Open 204
...Sucker Privileges 207
...Blackjack Card Counters Don’t Tilt 208
...Ideas From Dr. Feeney 209

Part Seven: Silly Ideas 215
...Introduction 216
...Self-Weighting Hand Histories 217
...Having the Best Hand 220
...Recent Erroneous Concepts 223

Conclusion 241

Index 243

Due to having a bunch of time today, I was going through old threads in this section and I found something interesting.

This book has actually been in the works since 2009 as I found a thread which has a post by Mason from that year where he talks about Real Poker Psychology.
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02-06-2017 , 03:14 AM
Mason, your new psychology book will be my absolutely first choice over the other books I asked about in my post today Feb 6, 2017. I didn't know about it before.

By far my biggest leak is psychology / mental game.
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02-11-2017 , 09:27 PM
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There are a couple of points here I'd also like clarification on.

Firstly, how is causality determined in for unconscious competence arising from fully myelinated neural networks in the brain?

Secondly, can you link the study where deliberate practice over 10k hours to myelination?
Thought one of us would have an answer by now.
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