This looks interesting, and should cost less than his book.

http://www.expertholdem.com/dvds.html#bobbo

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Hmmm the trailor looked pretty good, even though it only showed one hand example. Maybe his book is worth the thousands it costs.

Glad I waited for the DVD

I hadn't heard about this but Expert Holdem has put out some really good videos in the past and Bobbofitos is known as an excellent coach so I would probably buy this set. Hope it's released shortly and not six months from now.

yeah, this is a typo. The DVD series is about cash games, ofcourse.

wow, I cannot WAIT for this. Bobbo, any idea of a release date?

Rob when are these due to be out and how do they sit alongside your book? I am assuming they will be worth getting even if i already have the book?

Highstakes bookshop in london have the release date from suppliers as 14th Feb.

The book doesn't cost thousands, but for anyone that hasn't got the book, it should qualify as a must buy judging from the table of content. Tho you could also skip the dvd and just buy the book.

Oh I thought this was that really expensive book.

How much is it and where can I view the table of contents?

it's $750, google if you want to buy-it


BOBBO: how much of this video set and the book are similar? Or rather, how much stuff is (roughly) the same in both?

I was under the impression that the book isn't currently available? At least it wasn't the last time at looked over at the leggopoker forum. Has it become available again?

It's been two years since I bought it, so I'm not sure of anything, but my guess is 750$ and I think details are on leggo, tho I'm way out of the loop, so I dunno ..


slowhabit/cts is the 2k book.

I have the book, but not the dvds (obv). Yes, the book is available again.

I'm sure Rob will be back on in a while but maybe he'd prefer if somebody unbiased gave some comments.

Looking at the table of contents there's a decent amount of overlap with the book:

"Disc 1 - Key Winning Concepts
The building blocks of great poker. Master these ideas and you will be on your way to planning and playing hands the way that experts do.
• Equity and reverse equity: the yin and yang of poker
• The power of aggression
• Optimal play versus perfect play
• Attacking stacks versus attacking blinds
• Adjustability and the Optimal Cycle
• Exploiting weakness"

This looks a lot like the first 3 chapters of the book (there's 14 in total btw), those chapters were sort of an introduction. They weren't packed with content or important game changing concepts, they were more of an overview of Rob's philosophy on the game and things he keeps in mind when approaching the game.

"Disc 2 - Pre-flop And The Golden Ratio
Advanced coverage of how to play pre-flop in today's aggressive games. Use the brand new and revolutionary 'Golden Ratio' to know when, and when not to three-bet!

• Raised pots in position
• Hand values & Bobbo's Hand Tiers
• Unopened pots
• Three Betting & Bobbo's Golden Ratio
• The golden ratio in action"

This covers chapters 4 and 5 in the book. In the book this covered opening hands by position and how he breaks down different hand types. The sections on 3betting are really good and the golden ratio is an extremely important concept to understand. In the book there are a lot of hand quizzes which really help solidify the concepts, I honestly didn't understand some of the stuff in the book until after the quizzes and a second read through. I'm assuming "the golden ratio in action" is example hands so there's a lot of value in those.

There has been 3 attachments (updates with added content) for these chapters added to the original book and I'd assume they weren't written when this dvd series was being produced.

"Disc 3 - Post-flop Planning And Bet-Sizing
Bet-sizing can be a mystery to most players. This show analyzes all the factors you need to consider in order to size your flop bets correctly, and even when it's best to check with the initiative.

• Board textures and types
• Adjusting bet sizing to different opponent types
• Balancing the flop
• Deception
• Shutting out the Movemakers
• Post-flop planning in action"

This covers chapters 6 and 7 from the book. Rob breaks down board textures into 5 types and explains the different bet sizes you should make on each and, more importantly, why. The bet sizing part is HUGE, this had a massive effect on my game when I read it. If you're the type of player who just cbets 75% of pot all the time (like I did), this section is for you.

Balancing the flop is the title of chapter 7 in the book. Rob really struggled with this chapter, mainly because he just wants to bet everything . Besides the ironically named title the section is still very good and was basically a lot of different examples with different hands on different textures against different opponents.


So what isn't covered in the dvds that is covered in the book? There were two attachments on calling 3bets and playing 3bet pots postflop as the caller which were fairly recent. There was an attachment which elaborated on the golden ratio concept, I don't know whether it's included in the dvd or not. I remember the attachment being very good and helping me understand the concept a lot more though.

There's two chapters on playing draws which were fantastic and really explained the why behind playing draws. Three chapters and an attachment on turn play which were very good and helped me understand a lot of the flop bet sizing parts. It does include some stuff which (imo) is pretty outdated though, like the stack a donk play. The barreling sections didn't put a lot of emphasis on what the turn/river card is but more the board texture. I remember it mentioning the turn card only once in the theory sections but talking about it a bit more in the examples/quizzes. This struck me as a little unusual compared to the more common wisdom on barreling but the sections are still really good.

The last two chapters are on river play which were decent as well. I remember Rob saying that these sections were rushed because he had a deadline to submit to a publisher and most of his students didn't get to the river play in his coaching (the book was based on Rob's famous 12 part coaching program I believe) so it wasn't as filled out as he'd have liked. It's not a huge problem though since Rob puts a lot of emphasis on planning future streets when taking actions on earlier streets so there's a good amount of content on river play outside these chapters anyway.

Is the DVD worth it? You're getting a load of content from a $750 ebook. For $60, looooool, buy two just in case the first one gets scratched.

We will be the first in the USA to carry the DVD set and pre-release orders are now accepted:

http://www.conjelcostore.com/conjelc...&productID=319

While it is in pre-release use discount code BBFDVD1 for 10% off! Once it is in stock - no discount.

Will you be getting this in earlier than the date quoted by highstakes bookshop? (That is the 14th Feb btw). If so I'll probably order it from you, despite the higher delivery charges (I live in the UK).

Excellent review of the book RedJoker, thanks.

Looks pretty sick...when I saw the price I thought it had to be for newbs but the description by disk looks promising

Not sure yet. As soon as the masters have made it to the USA replication company (which is right up the street from my office) I'll update a delivery date. If the producer is replicating in both USA and UK I would expect that we would both have them about the same time. If we only replicate here, I'll have them first.

went ahead and preordered

SOLD.

Thanks the review man.

It's mentioned here, I am (unfortunately!) just as hazy as the rest regarding a specific date.
they are very similar to my book - I've been asked by a few people "is it worth if I already have your book" and here's what I said:
-Don't expect anything new or breathtaking. The meat is based on the book, which should be expected as I was responsible for writing the entire show/framework, so I wanted to be able to "master" everything
-For ~60$ though, I do include a few hand examples, and I re-explain certain topics, so I don't think it's NOT worth it.

If this makes sense? Essentially, expect something to be worth more than 60$ if you can handle a few different hand examples and a different medium of approaching knowledge. If you expect new content, you'll be disappointed.
I think this is true

As noted above, it's very similar, although obviously has a lot less content. Not only was I limited to 3 DVDs, but also they were cut from hours to literally ~40 mins each. So as expected I had to gloss over certain topics I could literally spend hours talking about.

It is. If interested, PM me.

Yeah, RJ pretty much nailed it with his review.

Awesome

Yeah, for anyone interested in the content, RJ's review is very honest and accurate.

Is this DVD set for both 6 max and full ring?

So where do we get the uncut masters from with all that extra content