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Baluga Whale's "Easy Game" book - What do you think? Baluga Whale's "Easy Game" book - What do you think?

05-14-2009 , 03:06 PM
Any real reviews yet?
05-14-2009 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
I've reviewed the table of contents.Barring any further personal attacks I'm out of here.
I could review the table of contents to HOC and say it sucks. Does this make sense? DUCY?
05-14-2009 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
I could review the table of contents to HOC and say it sucks. Does this make sense? DUCY?
It would if it cost ten times as much as any normal book and it contained no more than introductory material in many of the chapters.
05-14-2009 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thejumpoff
Any real reviews yet?
brocksavage says he's read it but hasn't said what's in it that makes it worth $300.
05-14-2009 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
It would if it cost ten times as much as any normal book and it contained no more than introductory material in many of the chapters.
Surely it depends on what's in the chapters and not just the title of the chapters. But I agree that I want to hear from real reviews to show that it does contain material not found elsewhere, or that the material is explained in a way that makes it easy to understand and implement in my own game to justify the high price tag.

I'm interested to hear from people who've read volume 1.

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
brocksavage says he's read it but hasn't said what's in it that makes it worth $300.
I did pm brocksavage as I am interested in the ebook and would be useful to hear his review.
05-14-2009 , 04:59 PM
I'm going to give you guys the balugawhale handbook for free: fold if you don't have the nuts and never EVER try to get creative. there i saved u all money
05-14-2009 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nycballer
I'm going to give you guys the balugawhale handbook for free: fold if you don't have the nuts and never EVER try to get creative. there i saved u all money
Nice... now just put that in an ebook and charge $300
05-14-2009 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nycballer
I'm going to give you guys the balugawhale handbook for free: fold if you don't have the nuts and never EVER try to get creative. there i saved u all money
I just received infraction points for a "personal attack" so I'm done with this thread.

I do have to say that this quote is LOL! I can already think of three hand examples in Vol. 1 where BW is creative and makes great calls with nothing near the nuts.

Optimistic: I'll PM you back. I just haven't had time.
05-14-2009 , 05:16 PM
Sorry one last comment:

To all the BW haters - why waste your time posting in a thread where people are actually trying to find out information about the book?

You have nothing to offer but baseless criticisms.
05-14-2009 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
It would if it cost ten times as much as any normal book and it contained no more than introductory material in many of the chapters.
Okay so I missed this one. I own HOC 1 and 2. I've read them both 3 times. In all honesty, the material in BW Vol. 1 is light-years ahead of HOC.

It's what's in the contents, not the table of contents that matters.
05-14-2009 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
I just received infraction points for a "personal attack" so I'm done with this thread.
my opinion of baluga's play is not a personal attack, im sure he's a great guy

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To all the BW haters - why waste your time posting in a thread where people are actually trying to find out information about the book?
i'm trying to give them the information they are looking for, i have not seen the book but based on how baluga plays i'd say that you are throwing ur money away compared to what that money could get u. One hour of coaching with someone like ansky which is the same price will teach u way more than anything baluga could say in a 300 page volume

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You have nothing to offer but baseless criticisms.
not baseless at all buddy, i have played with the meganit and every post he makes in hsnl is "i have some monster but omg with that line he can't be bluffing cause its so obv he's bluffing so i must fold"
05-14-2009 , 05:48 PM
nyc,

we've played for 33 hands. you have no idea how I play, unless you consider those 33 hands a good enough sample, in which case I'll take the 2k that i'm up against you. Please base your criticism of my game on more than the three posts of mine you've read.

and ive heard your a great guy too. ill buy you some beer in vegas this summer.

also both you and ansky are obv sick players (probably better than me) and this isn't the slightest call out against either of you guys. getting coaching from either of you (not sure if you coach, know ansky does) is almost certainly a +EV move.

Andrew
05-14-2009 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
Optimistic: I'll PM you back. I just haven't had time.
Wasn't mentioning it in a negative way. No rush... you'd be doing me a favour so I'm not complaining Appreciate your help tho.
05-14-2009 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
Sorry one last comment:

To all the BW haters - why waste your time posting in a thread where people are actually trying to find out information about the book?

You have nothing to offer but baseless criticisms.
You've read it and I've asked you for information.All I want to know is there any really strong material in this book which merits its $300 price tag?Please be as specific as you can.
05-14-2009 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
You've read it and I've asked you for information.All I want to know is there any really strong material in this book which merits its $300 price tag?Please be as specific as you can.
What stakes do you play and what is your current WR?
05-14-2009 , 05:52 PM
to be honest i was prolly being unfairly harsh. the target audience isn't someone who's playing 5/10+ and i wrote my post with that in mind
05-14-2009 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nycballer
to be honest i was prolly being unfairly harsh.
appreciated.

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the target audience isn't someone who's playing 5/10+ and i wrote my post with that in mind
Someone who's doing well at 5/10+ probably has most of volume I already figured out on their own, for sure. There's a lot of stuff in volume 2 that people screw up at 5/10+ though imo.

Andrew
05-14-2009 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
What stakes do you play and what is your current WR?
Please do not get personal and defensive.I'll address this question to both you and Baluga and ask for a fourth time,what is in this book which merits its $300 price tag?Please be as specific as you can so I can get some idea of whether it's worth buying the book.I'm sure others on here want to know this as well.
05-14-2009 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nycballer
to be honest i was prolly being unfairly harsh. the target audience isn't someone who's playing 5/10+ and i wrote my post with that in mind
Alright I'm glad everyone is cool.

fwiw, I play 100NL and 200NL and I feel it's an extremely good text for people at these stakes.
05-14-2009 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
I just received infraction points for a "personal attack" so I'm done with this thread.
Brock,
Your posts are appreciated here but calling a specific forum member an idiot and huge d-bag (whether deserved or not) is not acceptable in the B&P forum. That will get the post deleted and infracted every time. Please try to state your case without the personal shots.
Mike
05-14-2009 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
Please do not get personal and defensive.I'll address this question to both you and Baluga and ask for a fourth time,what is in this book which merits its $300 price tag?Please be as specific as you can so I can get some idea of whether it's worth buying the book.I'm sure others on here want to know this as well.
Not a personal or defensive. If you play HS like nyc, etc. then the book may or may not be worth your time.

If you play SSNL to MSNL the book should be well worth your $$$, unless you're absolutely crushing.

What I was getting at is that if you play 200NL and the book is able to increase you WR by say 1-bb1.5bb/100 it's worth it's weight in gold.
05-14-2009 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by twoplustwostore
Brock,
Your posts are appreciated here but calling a specific forum member an idiot and huge d-bag (whether deserved or not) is not acceptable in the B&P forum. That will get the post deleted and infracted every time. Please try to state your case without the personal shots.
Mike
No probs Mike. I was outta line.
05-14-2009 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
Please do not get personal and defensive.I'll address this question to both you and Baluga and ask for a fourth time,what is in this book which merits its $300 price tag?Please be as specific as you can so I can get some idea of whether it's worth buying the book.I'm sure others on here want to know this as well.
hey cwocwoc,

I think he was asking to get a frame of reference for your cost/benefit. Either way, someone struggling at .25/.50 with a 350 dollar bankroll should not spend the majority of their roll on this book. someone stuck grinding .25/.50 with a 2000 should consider it.
the content, in my opinion, is all extremely valuable. I'll have to let an unbiased voice speak about it though.

Andrew
05-14-2009 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BalugaWhale
The content, in my opinion, is all extremely valuable. I'll have to let an unbiased voice speak about it though.

Andrew

I would pay for it you can convince me it's worth $300.This a an opportuntity for you to sell your book.For the fifth time what SPECIFICALLY is in this book that merits the price tag of $300?There must be some reason you decided to set the price at $300.
05-14-2009 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
I would pay for it you can convince me it's worth $300.This a an opportuntity for you to sell your book.For the fifth time what SPECIFICALLY is in this book that merits the price tag of $300?There must be some reason you decided to set the price at $300.
Why would anyone who has the book want to let out what is specifically in the book? So the people they play against can get the book too? If you need convincing to pay 300 for the book, you're pretty much not the target market. For someone playing 100nl or 200nl its like a few buyins dude.

      
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