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Old 09-12-2012, 06:07 AM   #201
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Re: Analytical No-Limit Hold 'em by Thomas Bakker reviews and discussion

The advantage of theory/maths book is that they age very well and the book is as relevant today as it was almost two years ago.

However, your "not that dry to read what I am afraid of" makes me think you are not a "maths player" and therefore will not completely benefit from the book as the best parts require quite a lot of maths work away from the table. My recommendation would be either to start with an easier book (Poker Math That Matters has a good reputation here but I have never read it as I was good at maths before playing poker), or go for non maths books: you seem to be a player with a good poker intuition, which means you do the maths intuitively, and may benefit from advanced books low on poker maths but strong on solid reasonning. The Intelligent Poker Player is excellent at giving a framework. It is a little like The Mathematics of Poker without the maths. Very different and very practical, Domination No limit Hold'em is a very good book of a former high stakes who approaches poker the same way as you do; you will benefit from this one too. Hope this helps.
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:44 AM   #202
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Re: Analytical No-Limit Hold 'em by Thomas Bakker reviews and discussion

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The advantage of theory/maths book is that they age very well and the book is as relevant today as it was almost two years ago.

However, your "not that dry to read what I am afraid of" makes me think you are not a "maths player" and therefore will not completely benefit from the book as the best parts require quite a lot of maths work away from the table. My recommendation would be either to start with an easier book (Poker Math That Matters has a good reputation here but I have never read it as I was good at maths before playing poker), or go for non maths books: you seem to be a player with a good poker intuition, which means you do the maths intuitively, and may benefit from advanced books low on poker maths but strong on solid reasonning. The Intelligent Poker Player is excellent at giving a framework. It is a little like The Mathematics of Poker without the maths. Very different and very practical, Domination No limit Hold'em is a very good book of a former high stakes who approaches poker the same way as you do; you will benefit from this one too. Hope this helps.
Thanks a lot for your answer.

Dont get me worng....its not like I have no idea about maths i watched a Series called Mathematics of NL holdem (wiltontillt) 2*times i know when its +ev to call against certain ranges, i know how to calculate ho much foldequity i need for my bluffs.....I am just not that good at it and I want2improve.

So in the book is a lot of maths? I think its better to improve other aspects on my game with videos on dc or cr cause there is always new actual stuff. But mathwise i prefer a book!

My goal is that I see my edge better at 6max, I want2know more about maths for example in 3 barreling spots or how often i can steal to show profit against certain player types to show profit!
I hope this doesnt sound retarded and you get it my english is not that perfekt...
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:11 PM   #203
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Re: Analytical No-Limit Hold 'em by Thomas Bakker reviews and discussion

Probably worst poker book I ever read. Completely out of touch with current games (and games 2 years ago) ridiculous sizings in almost every example (3.5x open button, 36 bb 4b 100bb deep looool) , useless 20bb tables (what shorty opens 3x? )and very superficial/bad reasoning everywhere.

Only useful point was showing why redline should be decreasing with all equal opponents in a multiplayer game.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:22 AM   #204
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Re: Analytical No-Limit Hold 'em by Thomas Bakker reviews and discussion

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Even if you disagree with some of the author’s ranges, bet sizes or examples, his rigorous approach/methods is what makes the book valuable.
.. or disagree with a specific calculation.

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I agree.

The book covers many important topics.

I think some readers may be bored with one chapter but find large value in another chapter.

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Old 04-24-2017, 11:09 AM   #205
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Probably worst poker book I ever read. Completely out of touch with current games (and games 2 years ago) ridiculous sizings in almost every example (3.5x open button, 36 bb 4b 100bb deep looool) , useless 20bb tables (what shorty opens 3x? )and very superficial/bad reasoning everywhere.

Only useful point was showing why redline should be decreasing with all equal opponents in a multiplayer game.
So what are the best books you've read?
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