Zoom / Rush Poker thread - Page 9 - Beginning Poker Questions

Yeah, I mean I think a lot of people are 3betting JJ/AK maybe QQ for value, then getting 4bet and folding, not sure how often people are 3betting light.

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03-19-2012 , 08:53 PM

#202

ShotGlass-

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 225

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Originally Posted by chad0x00

shotglass, two words. Rat Holing

That may be the way to go, although I have seen quite a few 500-1000+ BB stacks at 5nl, they must be doing something right...

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03-19-2012 , 09:07 PM

#203

Beaf

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 38

Been playing for hours now and ive lost like 5 buy ins on nl2. I have never runned so bad before ever. I am so angry right now.
You have like no information except for u cheaters using hud ( no better than robots imo)
so people can be complete maniacs or solid players. Have tried lots of different tactics, but i cant get the hang of it. And u cant even look up players because they block that function. i hate stars, its probably rigged.

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03-19-2012 , 09:12 PM

#204

A.Ertbjerg

Heisenbjerg

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10,770

no need to rathole if you are comfortable playing deep.

Of course that means that from time to time you will lose a big pot but if you are good you will win one more often.

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03-19-2012 , 09:14 PM

#205

A.Ertbjerg

Heisenbjerg

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10,770

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Originally Posted by Beaf

I don't think you know what a HUD does if you think it promotes robotic play. Combined with whining about being unable to look up players it's kinda LOL.

Still, just play good solid poker and you will be fine.

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03-19-2012 , 09:25 PM

#206

zumby

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 4,277

No money in Zoom, everyone's solid

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($43.21)
UTG+1 ($42.73)
CO ($10.30)
BTN ($7.40)
SB ($10.05)
Hero (BB) ($10)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB K

4 folds, SB raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, SB calls $0.60

Flop: 10

($1.60, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.76, SB raises to $1.80, Hero goes all-in $9.20, SB calls $7.40

Turn: 9

($20, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 8

($20, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Spoiler:

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03-19-2012 , 09:27 PM

#207

zumby

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 4,277

Solid

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03-19-2012 , 09:34 PM

#208

ShotGlass-

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 225

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Walter Rosa ($5.38)
UTG+1 mabel1 ($5.13)
CO Kjepz ($16.60)
BTN leedsrounder ($10.37)
SB hero ($7.92)
BB WVWVWVW ($49.23)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) hero is SB Q

3 folds, leedsrounder raises to $0.20, hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, leedsrounder calls $0.20

Flop: 9

($0.85, 2 players)
hero bets $0.40, leedsrounder calls $0.40

Turn: 6

($1.65, 2 players)
hero bets $0.80, leedsrounder calls $0.80

River: 5

($3.25, 2 players)
hero bets $1.10, leedsrounder goes all-in $8.77, hero goes all-in $5.22

Final Pot: $15.89
leedsrounder shows a flush, Ace high
K

hero shows three of a kind, Queens
Q

leedsrounder wins $17.68 (net +$7.31)

hero lost $7.92

Guess I probably just played it poorly; should have raised more on the flop and turn, I feel like he was calling either way though zzz...

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03-19-2012 , 09:51 PM

#209

AndyM2033

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,936

Yeah im up about 8BIs overall I think and I just got silverstar, Zoom smashes through the points.

how much extra rake do you reckon PS gets through this? Must be unreal, I bet that is why 100NL has come in next! $$$$$$$

@Shotglass make it about 70c pre, then on that flop im pretty much going pot pot shove.

Hes still calling probably, but at least you get it in ahead, which is what you want.

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03-19-2012 , 09:56 PM

#210

AndyM2033

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,936

To add to that before I call it a night.

I reckon the best time to play Zoom is between 10pm UK time and around now (From this post time -4hours) From what I have seen that is the most softest and where I have won the most.

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03-19-2012 , 10:16 PM

#211

Mr Beer

banned

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 5,965

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Originally Posted by Beaf

The problem is that you are the kind of bad-tempered crybaby that blames software, poker hosts, "online is rigged" instead of your own inadequate poker skills. Don't get me wrong though, I think it's great...people like you will always be donators.

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03-20-2012 , 03:51 AM

#212

chad0x001

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Originally Posted by Beaf

Been playing for hours now and ive lost like 5 buy ins on nl2.

you are probably bad at poker

I have never run so bad before ever.

FYP

I am so angry right now.
You have like no information except for u cheaters using hud ( no better than robots imo)

I dont have a HUD at the moment, HEM hasnt been updated/fixed. When I used it previously, pokerstars agreed with me that I was not cheating. Instead of being a baby about it, why dont you get one yourself?

so people can be complete maniacs or solid players. Have tried lots of different tactics, but i cant get the hang of it. And u cant even look up players because they block that function. i hate stars, its probably rigged.

Use one tactic, play good poker. The same kind you were beating normal 2nl with. Whats that? you were losing at non zoom poker before? well you wont beat zoom then. you cant look up players when they change their setting so they cant be seen in search, you could probably do that if you werent such a thicko, the option is in the stars lobby.

If you hate stars, why dont you **** off to full tilt, or ultimate bet or everleaf or...

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03-20-2012 , 04:23 AM

#213

Mr Beer

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Originally Posted by chad0x00

If you hate stars, why dont you **** off to full tilt, or ultimate bet or everleaf or...

I agree with the rest of your post but please chad, I love tilty rigtards. I LOL everytime this happens:

Dealer: Tilty Rigtard has straight
Dealer: Reg Player has a full house
Dealer: Reg Player wins pot
Tilty Rigtard: "FU STARS YOU ARE A ****ING JOKE!!!!"
Tilty Rigtard: "POKER STARS = JOKER STARS!! FU FIXED SITE!!!"
*Tilty Rigtard status = Sitting Out*
*Tilty Rigtard re-loads*

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03-20-2012 , 06:48 AM

#214

GenKKenobi

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 360

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Originally Posted by Mr Beer

This is classic

I see the same thing all the time at the merge network; the ones that donate the most are the ones that complain about online poker being teh rigged. This one guy literally played more awful then any other player I've ever seen at online poker so I tagged him as a fish. The very next day I click his name to see if he's sitting anywhere to find out he is playing nl100. Go figure.

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03-20-2012 , 08:01 AM

#215

chad0x001

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I would like nice even days and nights, not all wins or all losses please. Last night I hit everything, today I couldnt hit a cows arse with a banjo. Zoom, speeding your poker money into pokerstars pockets

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03-20-2012 , 09:06 AM

#216

raikkonen3

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,805

The swings on zoom are crazy, just played for like ~2 hours and won 1/2BI. I lost 3BI pretty quickly being a bit of a station (ridiculous how often you are up against the nuts so I tightened up pretty quickly). Then I grinded it back and was up a BI then I had some run bad; lost AA v QQ AI PF for 250BB pot and then lost a huge pot where I was betting pot knowing the guy had a flush draw, draw hit on river and I called his less than 1/10 pot bet to confirm my read (150BB pot).

Guess I've got the hang of zoom now, just a lot of nut peddling going on.

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03-20-2012 , 09:34 AM

#217

chad0x001

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why you put money in the pot after his 1/10 pot river bet again?

For value?

As a bluff?

Claim dead money?

[X] keep villain honest

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03-20-2012 , 09:38 AM

#218

Scyth

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 80

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Originally Posted by Beaf

learn to fold, having no hud or information is exactly what makes it so profitable you can get away with things you can't normally do.

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03-20-2012 , 09:39 AM

#219

raikkonen3

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,805

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Originally Posted by chad0x00

why you put money in the pot after his 1/10 pot river bet again?

For value?

As a bluff?

Claim dead money?

[X] keep villain honest

I had a hand btw... I ain't ever folding to a bet that small incase my read is wrong, which I'm sure it will be more than 1/10 times.

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03-20-2012 , 10:16 AM

#220

chad0x001

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ok fair play. You are FR or 6max by the way? I started on FR but switched to 6Max.

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03-20-2012 , 10:21 AM

#221

raikkonen3

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,805

6max, been playing 6max for last couple of months. Used to do FR but not really a fan of it anymore.

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03-20-2012 , 10:43 AM

#222

Maso777

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Originally Posted by chad0x00

well that was a complete **** of a session. Played for ten minutes, got stacked 5 times in 5 minutes. stopped playing.

KK < AA, KK < AA, KK< AK, AK < TT and AK < AA

I am suddenly very far from being comfortable pushing anything but AA pre flop.

Do *nothing* wrong, lose 5 buyins in 5 minutes? I love poker so much.

Are you playing FR or 6max?

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03-20-2012 , 10:49 AM

#223

Maso777

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Originally Posted by brrrap!

It's terrible marketing considering HEM2 sucks, all it will do is force people to go for PT3/4.

I'm glad I purchased PT3 a long time ago, it amazes me they have a fix for both Pt3 and Pt4 and HEM as of yesterday doesn't even have an ETA for zoom being patched.

Not only that but PT3 has always had the ability to create custom stats.
I'm more inclined to purchase PT4 at this point over HEM2

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03-20-2012 , 10:50 AM

#224

Janus

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 41

FU Zoom

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12227412

CO: $0.92 (46 bb)
SB: $7.37 (368.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.03 (251.5 bb)
UTG: $1.10 (55 bb)
MP1: $2 (100 bb)
MP2: $4.06 (203 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3

UTG calls $0.02, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.10, Hero calls $0.08, UTG folds

Flop: ($0.22) K

(2 players)
SB bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.28

Turn: ($1.02) Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.70

River: ($3.82) Q

(2 players)
SB bets $3.06, Hero calls $3.06

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