come on mate, don't be like that.

I am interested in opinions on what kind of stat for 3-betting people think is best for 3 betting in late position in 5NL Zoom. I have seen a post elsewhere suggesting 10% but this seems a bit high...

The opener's position is far more important than your position when constructing 3b ranges.

this is hard one for me

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): $15.15
SB: $40.94
BB: $10.00
UTG: $11.91
MP: $30.90
CO: $5.17

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with A K
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $0.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90) 2 9 6 (2 players)
SB bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.40) K (2 players)
SB bets $3.15, Hero calls $3.15

River: ($10.70) T (2 players)
SB bets $10.22, Hero ??

Fold, having the As is really bad here, people are going to massively underbluff and your hand is def just a bluffcatcher vs that size. Also 4b pre.

if you fold this hand th en why are you calling the 3-bet? you dont have defending range on the river , do you think villain is overchecking on later streets? the way everything is setup is perfect for a bluffcatch , i dont think calling is -ev , it is high variance but not -ev , crazy things happen at zoom.

Don't really think our blockers play any significant role here.

What makes you want to 4bet?

Pretty sure 10NL regs are much less likely to think about whether Axss makes a bad bluff and therefore if they have a bluffing range, Axss will likely form enough of a part of it that our blockers are bad. Also, any A is pretty bad full stop in case he's rando TBing AJ/AQ (and also it doesn't block any value hand that uses this river sizing).

We have AKs, we're IP and we're deep.

could you guys recommend me an online coaching site with good zoom/rush videos?

http://www.runitonce.com/

Guys i started playing zoom 10nl and am having so much trouble with it its unreal i've lost 15bi in 10k hands. My redline is absolutely terrible because it seems i am constantly having to fold to aggression. The times i do actually call i'm dominated by a set. Today i played 4 tables for 15 minutes and made 2 flushes on the turn only for the river to pair the board, i bet and villain goes all in i call and they have a full house obviously. Later on i flopped a set and db, the river brings a 3 flush i bet villain goes all in i call villain wins with a flush. It seems i am losing from both sides i don't know if i am running extremely terrible or if i am just stacking off in bad places but if i where to fold my redline would be even worse (its currently almost -20bb/100). In normal games its not great (around -10bb/100) but my overall winrate is 8bb/100 over an ok sample of 90k hands. Another thing is over pairs JJ+, i barrel them and villain either folds early winning me a tiny pot, or villain draws out on me, flopped a set or has a higher over pair. It really seems i lose much bigger pots with them than i win.

Honestly i am just so stuck with what to do and can't understand why my game can be winning over a decent winrate (9bb/100 at 5nl and 10nl combined for 140k hands) to -15bi in 10k hands at zoom.

If you're who I think you are then get in touch on skype (I'm Joe from KP's group) and I'll give you a sweat.

No way haha how do you remember that and i had no idea you where you. I will have to recover my skype account i haven't been in so long but i will definitely hit you up on that some time this week at your convenience.

You suffer from normall table syndrome ,imo zoom is not harder than normall but its SO different , the leaks are different , actually i once beat 10nl zoom over 50k hand but i couldnt beat 16nl normal without adjusting a lot my game , my leaks when i played normall were that i didnt vbet light enough and didnt stack off light enough aswell , i also was trying to 3-bet like a madman , i was missing so much value...because i suffered from zoom syndrome.

You seem like you are playing a very straightforward game with correct vbets , kinda lighter stack offs due to your experience with normall and probably a lower aggression because then again normall is looser. This kind of style doesnt work with zoom , when you are playing zoom you have to use every weapon you have and take unorthodox lines when its appropriate , 10nl zoom is extremely tight limit , you have to increase your aggression and check much more than vbet , your stack off range must go down aswell without a read. You need to have a great hud and focus on each decision , thats why i think its bad to play 4 tables especially if its your first time on the limit.

hud only working on zoom 10nl+ suddenly?

+1, SO much this.

Played a bit 50z today, I mainly play at eurosites, and I'm never ever going to mix them up in one session.

The strat you should use is just so different. At eurosites you don't need to be making huge folds all the time, where as at zoom that's where a lot of your edge comes from + attacking certain spots with huge aggression.

Minuscule sample but i thought it might help if i posted stats

Biggest thing I can tell from that is you're a nit. CO/BTN/SB can be as wide as 30/75/70 at 10NL because everyone is too tight in the blinds. I suspect you're not pushing a good number of red line spots postflop as well - especially playing so tight you can cbet much more than that.

You know truthfully i do open those figures but since messing with pokersnowie last week for the first time and looking at its recommended opening ranges my game has gone to complete ****. I'm recovering skype now.

Notice your flop c-bet success rate is highest when you're on the button. So why are you only c-betting 43% of the time when HU in the best seat?
I have a very low c-bet rate when OOP, but against the nits on Zoom you're missing plenty of profitable spots to c-bet in position. Those set-miners are looking to fold and move on.

This sessions stats below, a lot of things improved but still c betting is low especially on the turn which is weirdly low this session. What you said hits home with me i think i try to c bet too much oop and then shy away from c betting in general if you understand? i will work on this next session along with double barrelling and opening up a lot in the bb.

+1

Even at 50z you should be having this type of stats ( CO more like 40), until people realize what you are doing, which might be quite fast, would guess that datamining at 50z starts to become the norm.

I noticed hardly anyone cold calls the btn unless they have a pocket pair really what is the reason for that.

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