I probably jam the turn.

Yeah, I think jamming turn is probably best. As played, villain has the effective nuts on the river (probably QQ, but sometimes AA or Axdd), and he's checking back just about everything else, so calling the turn OOP doesn't really do anything for you, as implied odds are virtually non-existent, and you have very little SDV.
Unless villain is spewy and somehow thinks he can overbet AKo for value, you should fold the river.

Since it's multiway and you have a decent combo draw on the flop, I don't mind donking out right there. Folding out hands like AK is huge for you, but you can get stacks in if someone raises, and you can barrel or check(-shove) the turn if villain just calls.

Generally speaking, playing draws passively OOP isn't going to work well for you. If you don't have an active plan for making money with KTs in this spot, you may as well just fold to the 3-bet pre. After all, it's not as if you're expecting to make top pair and out-pip K8. With a hand of this strength, you need to (semi-)bluff at some point.

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I played this hand earlier against a 12/12 over 50 hands villain and I would love to know what you think about it. I need 25% equity to make a turn call profitable. What would you do?

I decided not to bet flop to avoid getting called only by better, was it a mistake? Do you think that I left some value?

Checking flop is suuuuper standard. Would love to have more information on villain because obv turn bet pretty much commits us, and we block AK really well, but it's tough to see what he calls a huge 4b with then is able to bluff this turn.

Check back flop, call turn. There's only 1 combo of quads and 4 combos of AK that beat you, but how many other Ax hands depends on how often villain squeezes. After you check the flop, many 2NL villains will think QQ/JJ (12 combos of hands you're crushing) are good, so you definitely have to call at that price. Probably fold to a river shove though, as villain will be unlikely to bet again without an ace, because you have quads and AK in your slowplay range.

Nice feedbacks! I ended up folding to his bet but doesn't felt right doing so, thanks for the help.

There could be good arguments for betting flop tbh not sure I'm reading the stackdepths correctly, but I could maybe even prefer the bet over xb.

yeah at 2nl actually you can probably play super-well by b/f like 35c here

Basically it's a spot where we prob "need" to call down.

So if we put KK into betting range, many villains might be less inclined to turn stuff like JJ into bluffs on later streets because they think that our flop betting range is polarized and we only go for value with Ax where as if we xb our range is faceup as like JJ-KK + slowplays. KK should be pretty clear like 1 street of value here IMO, and if we face less bluffs by making the bet ourself it might be more +EV than check.

None of this applies if V is clairvoyant to our strategy.

Pretty new to the 5nl zoom pool on stars.

What bb/100 have you guys gotten there?

how often do you guys see big over shoves otf like this? confused me. small sample of 20 hands on v running 10/10


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $6.43 (128.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $9.25 (185 bb)
UTG: $3.84 (76.8 bb)
MP: $10.85 (217 bb)
CO: $6.76 (135.2 bb)
BTN: $13.34 (266.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN folds, SB calls $0.13, Hero raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.60, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.80) 9 7 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.12, MP raises to $10.10 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.38 and is all-in

Turn: ($18.80) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($18.80) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

^^ I will not stack of with KK on that crapy spot vs 10/10 guy even with less bbs,cos he setmining pre and he never jam TT post!

No way am I folding KK there, people just do this with QQ so often.

Never seen anyone just jam QQ like that for 150bb. They are usually weary of KK AA.

Same villain 3 bet jammed 4 times against me last night at NL20 euros. I called third time with AJ and he had KK. I couldn't find any other time he showed down, as ipoker replayer is crap. Buy what are the chances of him having AA, KK four times v me at speed poker withing a few hours? He must have been jamming wide.

Why would he jam qq post flop like that though

I find they have two pair + when they jam full stacks. It's cost me a lot of chips to find out

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $36.14
SB: $10.00
BB: $19.51
UTG: $35.54
MP: $17.33
Hero (CO): $12.91

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) K 2 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, BTN calls $0.90

River: ($3.55) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, BTN raises to $34.44 all in, Hero ??


easy fold? or just fold?

Check-call river.

As played, fold. He has 55.

Seriously don't xc river. I probably just bet like $3.20 and expect him never to fold a K. As played fold.

I can see check calling if we think they bluff missed flush draws alot plus value bet worse Kx

But I agree that b/f river is best, especially since they wont turn a pair into a bluff. You can size it larger though

Every time I watch some 500z I see really fish play. Just watched a hand where MP calls UTG raise with 86s, then calls a 4x 3bet from button, then happens to flop open ender straight flush draw and stacks aces, who jams a flush turn, drawing dead.

There has to be some leveling going on behind the scene. That you and I just aren't seeing.

It takes some serious cojones just registering for 500z.

There might be levelling but that's a fish.

I guess you included KQo in villain's pre-flop flatting range. I didn't, so I think he should only have 2 or 3 combos of trips.