How did you fold? You're getting great odds to draw to your 10 outs.
I'm going to assume hero fold here because while they do have good odds to draw, they also have the CO to act after them and can't guarantee there won't be more action getting back round to them which will pot-commit them with the wrong odds.
If hero is last to act and close out the betting then it's a clear call I feel but I'm not sure I'd be happy getting my stack in behind 2 other players with that board...but again, that depends on reads and yes, it's a still a tad nitty with top set but on that draw heavy a board I think it would be warrented
10BI downswings are a monthly event. In zoom, you will see more bad beats per hour... your edge is smaller, and tilt can set in very easily.
In addition, the poster clearly didnt know anything about bankroll management and telling him its fine to take shots at 10BI is just going to get him in to trouble.
Your advise is suicidal for a beginner.
/Rant
LOL 10BI downswings at microbonk levels = get a coach.
If you can't learn to quit when you're playing/running bad, then just stop playing poker.
10BI isnt even a "downswing" its more just like a normal bad swingy day? How many hands do you play a day to consider 10BI a downswing lol.
Quitting when running bad yea sure like the variance cares about that, quitting when playing bad is another thing... Wouldnt call 10BI a downswing anyways...
I'm going to assume hero fold here because while they do have good odds to draw, they also have the CO to act after them and can't guarantee there won't be more action getting back round to them which will pot-commit them with the wrong odds.
If hero is last to act and close out the betting then it's a clear call I feel but I'm not sure I'd be happy getting my stack in behind 2 other players with that board...but again, that depends on reads and yes, it's a still a tad nitty with top set but on that draw heavy a board I think it would be warrented
Yeah I was worried about CO a lot if I just call there.
LOL 10BI downswings at microbonk levels = get a coach.
If you can't learn to quit when you're playing/running bad, then just stop playing poker.
The above is simply embarrassing and ignorant (not to mention, horrific advise for a new player to read). You are in for one hell of a shock when you run worse than you ever thought possible.
Every reg will tell you, 10BI "downswings" are not uncommon at all - even at FR. Even at the micros, 20+ are not impossible.
Many regs will happily tell you of a time they ran so horrifically, they were at risk of going busto despite practising good BRM (I, for example, ran 30BI below EV for 70k hands... Im willing to bet that I will do this again, if not worse, in the next year or so. And this is likely "Standard" downswing anyway. Go to BBV - they dont like anyone posting "sick downswing" threads unless its above 30/40BI)
Quitting when your running bad make f*ck all difference - so long as your calls are +ev.EG: Taking a week away from the game when you have been coolerd with KK vs AA isnt going to guarantee that you will begin to run well again.... You got coolered, deal with it.
The above can happily occur 10 times in a row and you dont suck out once... Woops, BR gone.
If you want my advise, learn BRM before you do anything... If you continue to go with a 10BI rule, I really do hope you continue to boost your roll until you have $1k, think you can play 100NL, do so, and loose it all. That would be somewhat amusing...
Last edited by GutshotDan92; 04-10-2012 at 02:52 PM.
The above is simply embarrassing and ignorant (not to mention, horrific advise for a new player to read). You are in for one hell of a shock when you run worse than you ever thought possible.
Every reg will tell you, 10BI "downswings" are not uncommon at all - even at FR. Even at the micros, 20+ are not impossible.
Many regs will happily tell you of a time they ran so horrifically, they were at risk of going busto despite practising good BRM (I, for example, ran 30BI below EV for 70k hands... Im willing to bet that I will do this again, if not worse, in the next year or so. And this is likely "Standard" downswing anyway. Go to BBV - they dont like anyone posting "sick downswing" threads unless its above 30/40BI)
Quitting when your running bad make f*ck all difference - so long as your calls are +ev.EG: Taking a week away from the game when you have been coolerd with KK vs AA isnt going to guarantee that you will begin to run well again.... You got coolered, deal with it.
The above can happily occur 10 times in a row and you dont suck out once... Woops, BR gone.
If you want my advise, learn BRM before you do anything... If you continue to go with a 10BI rule, I really do hope you continue to boost your roll until you have $1k, think you can play 100NL, do so, and loose it all. That would be somewhat amusing...
Sit in for 25nl Zoom, first two hands QQ all in on JJJ flop vs KK and then this. Will I ever run good at 25nl or am I doomed forever to mess about at 10nl because I cant catch a break?
The above is simply embarrassing and ignorant (not to mention, horrific advise for a new player to read). You are in for one hell of a shock when you run worse than you ever thought possible.
Every reg will tell you, 10BI "downswings" are not uncommon at all - even at FR. Even at the micros, 20+ are not impossible.
Many regs will happily tell you of a time they ran so horrifically, they were at risk of going busto despite practising good BRM (I, for example, ran 30BI below EV for 70k hands... Im willing to bet that I will do this again, if not worse, in the next year or so. And this is likely "Standard" downswing anyway. Go to BBV - they dont like anyone posting "sick downswing" threads unless its above 30/40BI)
Quitting when your running bad make f*ck all difference - so long as your calls are +ev.EG: Taking a week away from the game when you have been coolerd with KK vs AA isnt going to guarantee that you will begin to run well again.... You got coolered, deal with it.
The above can happily occur 10 times in a row and you dont suck out once... Woops, BR gone.
If you want my advise, learn BRM before you do anything... If you continue to go with a 10BI rule, I really do hope you continue to boost your roll until you have $1k, think you can play 100NL, do so, and loose it all. That would be somewhat amusing...
Agree that it's horrible to advise a beginner to use aggressive brm. I do think it's fine for skilled players however (I'm not siding with blackstar here btw as a lot of stuff he said was wrong and/or poorly phrased)
I myself used a 10BI rule to get out of the micros when i moved to stars to play zoom, and i think it's fine as long as you're a skilled player and as long as you have a solid moving down strategy.
Sit in for 25nl Zoom, first two hands QQ all in on JJJ flop vs KK and then this. Will I ever run good at 25nl or am I doomed forever to mess about at 10nl because I cant catch a break?
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