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01-20-2013 , 05:42 PM
I criticise no person, nor do i hold anyone to obligation, but believing that anyone is doing me a favour by commenting on a question i ask on 2+2? No.

This is a forum where information is exchanged freely. I post in answer to the questions of others if i feel qualified or i have a point to make and i hope others do the same for me, so there is an equality of give and take.

I'm not so arrogant to see my advice as doing someone a favour, and I'd be surprised if others felt that way about their posts tbh.

Let's not forget, this is Beginner's Questions after all.
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01-20-2013 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by eXydos
I don't quite know how to interpret the stats though. My VPIP is fairly high imo but that's because I often limp with small pp and sc when there's already been a limper.
I saw you open limp two or three times. Stop doing that.

Also you have a positive red line at 2NL. Fascinating.

How many tables do you play?
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01-20-2013 , 05:56 PM
wth is going on in this thread
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01-20-2013 , 06:01 PM
It all started with Q6s inhumane troll. Disgraceful. But he has apologised, he is only young afterall, and said hes going to make a video for you guys.

Now lets just get back to people posting hands and people giving advice and lets restore order in mine and chads thread plzthx.
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01-20-2013 , 06:02 PM
Thread is in danger of being derailed, so I'll ask a question I can't work out the answer to.

Why is FR zoom nonexistent at 100NL+? As I look now there 100+ games of normal FR 100NL running and yet no one is even in the 100NL FR zoom pool (I assume FT is the same with rush).

Is it something to do with bonuses or whatever fish play 100NL just playing normal tables?
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01-20-2013 , 06:06 PM
Would love to join your skype group I'm in a skype group of 6 but only me and a french guy ever talk hands.
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01-20-2013 , 06:08 PM
100nl FR zoom-- SN nit vs sn nit = loss?
Fish get board and play 6max instead is my guess. Ax is the nuts.
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01-20-2013 , 06:15 PM
Lmao, ranting about running bad itt has actually turned my luck around!

Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2072087
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $200.00
SB: $201.00
Hero (BB): $1478.33
UTG: $425.74
MP: $99.42
CO: $210.79

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with A A
2 folds, CO raises to $6, 1 fold, SB raises to $20, Hero calls $18, 1 fold

Flop: ($46.00) 2 9 8 (2 players)
SB bets $24, Hero raises to $1458.33 all in, SB calls $157 all in

Turn: ($408.00) A (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($408.00) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $408.00
SB shows A Q (a flush, Ace high)
Hero shows A A (a full house, Aces full of Nines)
Hero wins $405.20
(Rake: $2.80)

Last edited by 50nlRushandBeyond; 01-20-2013 at 06:24 PM.
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01-20-2013 , 06:20 PM
Nice stack, brutal flop line
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01-20-2013 , 06:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde
Nice stack, brutal flop line
lol i wouldnt call it brutal, it may be sub optimal but w/e
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01-20-2013 , 06:31 PM
Some hands I played earlier. Comments appreciated. Probably some of them arent interesting.

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15600941

    BTN: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
    SB: $4.76 (95.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
    UTG: $2.50 (50 bb)
    MP: $10.80 (216 bb)
    CO: $3.52 (70.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 3
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, 2 folds, SB calls $0.13, Hero calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.45) 5 7 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

    Turn: ($0.45) 3 (3 players)
    SB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30

    River: ($1.35) T (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.05, 2 folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $1.35 pot ($0.06 rake)
    Final Board: 5 7 2 3 T
    SB mucked and lost (-$0.45 net)
    Hero mucked 3 3 and won $1.29 ($0.84 net)
    MP mucked and lost (-$0.45 net)



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      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15600951

      BTN: $3.39 (67.8 bb)
      SB: $5.44 (108.8 bb)
      Hero (BB): $5.31 (106.2 bb)
      UTG: $7.21 (144.2 bb)
      MP: $11.15 (223 bb)
      CO: $7.05 (141 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.13, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN folds, SB calls $0.35

      Flop: ($1.15) K 9 A (2 players)
      SB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.25

      Turn: ($4.65) T (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3.06, SB calls $3.06

      River: ($10.77) J (2 players)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $10.77 pot ($0.45 rake)
      Final Board: K 9 A T J
      SB showed J A and lost (-$5.31 net)
      Hero showed A K and won $10.32 ($5.01 net)



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        Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15600961

        BTN: $6.53 (130.6 bb)
        SB: $5.29 (105.8 bb)
        BB: $5 (100 bb)
        UTG: $7 (140 bb)
        MP: $6.77 (135.4 bb)
        Hero (CO): $5 (100 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
        UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 3 folds, MP calls $0.20

        Flop: ($0.57) 3 J 6 (2 players)
        MP checks, Hero bets $0.30, MP raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $2, MP raises to $6.52 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.75 and is all-in

        Turn: ($10.07) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
        River: ($10.07) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $10.07 pot ($0.42 rake)
        Final Board: 3 J 6 5 6
        MP showed K K and won $0.00 (-$5 net)
        Hero showed J J and won $9.65 ($4.65 net)



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          Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15600971

          Hero (BTN): $10.31 (206.2 bb)
          SB: $2.50 (50 bb)
          BB: $2.50 (50 bb)
          UTG: $14.50 (290 bb)
          MP: $5 (100 bb)
          CO: $5.50 (110 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 9
          2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

          Flop: ($0.47) 6 9 K (3 players)
          BB checks, CO bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, BB folds

          Turn: ($0.97) 2 (2 players)
          CO bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

          River: ($1.77) Q (2 players)
          CO folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: $1.77 pot ($0.07 rake)
          Final Board: 6 9 K 2 Q
          CO mucked and lost (-$0.80 net)



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            Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15600981

            BTN: $2.21 (44.2 bb)
            SB: $7.05 (141 bb)
            BB: $10.97 (219.4 bb)
            UTG: $1.94 (38.8 bb)
            Hero (MP): $11.16 (223.2 bb)
            CO: $8.03 (160.6 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP with T J
            UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

            Flop: ($0.47) K 6 Q (3 players)
            BB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN folds, BB calls $0.25

            Turn: ($1.17) 2 (2 players)
            BB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $1.55, BB folds

            Spoiler:
            Results: $1.67 pot ($0.07 rake)
            Final Board: K 6 Q 2
            BB mucked and lost (-$0.75 net)
            Hero mucked T J and won $1.60 ($0.85 net)



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              Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15600991

              Hero (BTN): $6.22 (124.4 bb)
              SB: $5 (100 bb)
              BB: $3.85 (77 bb)
              UTG: $3.51 (70.2 bb)
              MP: $21.33 (426.6 bb)
              CO: $1.28 (25.6 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 3
              3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

              Flop: ($0.32) Q J 7 (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

              Turn: ($0.72) 3 (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, BB raises to $3.50 and is all-in, Hero folds

              Spoiler:
              Results: $1.82 pot ($0.08 rake)
              Final Board: Q J 7 3
              Hero mucked J 3 and lost (-$0.90 net)
              BB mucked and won $1.74 ($0.84 net)



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                Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15601001

                BTN: $6.78 (135.6 bb)
                SB: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
                Hero (BB): $6.16 (123.2 bb)
                UTG: $5.49 (109.8 bb)
                MP: $14.94 (298.8 bb)
                CO: $9.02 (180.4 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BB with A 4
                4 folds, SB raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, SB calls $0.30

                Flop: ($0.90) 4 8 2 (2 players)
                SB checks, Hero bets $0.55, SB calls $0.55

                Turn: ($2) A (2 players)
                SB checks, Hero bets $1.45, SB folds

                Spoiler:
                Results: $2 pot ($0.08 rake)
                Final Board: 4 8 2 A
                SB mucked and lost (-$1 net)
                Hero mucked A 4 and won $1.92 ($0.92 net)



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                  Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15601011

                  BTN: $5.39 (107.8 bb)
                  SB: $5 (100 bb)
                  BB: $1.69 (33.8 bb)
                  UTG: $4.15 (83 bb)
                  Hero (MP): $5.57 (111.4 bb)
                  CO: $2.50 (50 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is MP with T T
                  UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

                  Flop: ($0.60) 6 9 6 (4 players)
                  SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

                  Turn: ($1.30) T (2 players)
                  Hero bets $0.90, BTN raises to $2.42, Hero raises to $5.07 and is all-in, BTN calls $2.47

                  River: ($11.08) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $11.08 pot ($0.46 rake)
                  Final Board: 6 9 6 T 2
                  BTN mucked 9 T and lost (-$5.39 net)
                  Hero showed T T and won $10.62 ($5.23 net)



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                  01-20-2013 , 06:33 PM
                  Wp except for turn sizing in A4
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                  01-20-2013 , 06:35 PM
                  look fine to me. betting smaller on the turn with A4o as it is 3b pot
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                  01-20-2013 , 06:37 PM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by 50nlRushandBeyond
                  lol i wouldnt call it brutal, it may be sub optimal but w/e
                  You went all in with a pair against a flush
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                  01-20-2013 , 06:39 PM
                  33 - raise turn

                  AKo - I think it's OK.

                  JJ - I think OK

                  89s - nice fold mate!

                  JTs - Help ?

                  J3s - good fold? When he shoved I thoguht back to countless hands Id played (and posted) like this before. And Khan's recent comment "most of the time you will lose here, so just let it go" and other comments like "you are risking another 60bb for 18bb so fold" so I did.

                  A4o seems pretty standard

                  TT - more on flop?
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                  01-20-2013 , 06:40 PM
                  Less with A4 on turn cause 3bet pot and I can get all in easily anyway or some other reason?
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                  01-20-2013 , 07:07 PM
                  Might b coz he'll raise sets otf, so his range ott is weak (overpairs, tp, maybe fd's altho we have the nut), so u need to bet an amount he can call with that range
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                  01-20-2013 , 07:24 PM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by Mr Blonde
                  You went all in with a pair against a flush
                  Just like this fish

                  Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2072468
                  DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                  BTN: $201.00
                  SB: $404.04
                  Hero (BB): $1335.25
                  UTG: $200.00
                  MP: $261.12
                  CO: $666.62

                  Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 3 7
                  4 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, SB raises to $45, Hero calls $25

                  Flop: ($90.00) 5 6 5 (2 players)
                  SB bets $38.87, Hero calls $38.87

                  Turn: ($167.74) T (2 players)
                  SB bets $86.11, Hero calls $86.11

                  River: ($339.96) 7 (2 players)
                  SB bets $234.06 all in, Hero calls $234.06

                  Final Pot: $808.08
                  SB shows A A (two pair, Aces and Fives)
                  Hero shows 3 7 (a flush, Ten high)
                  Hero wins $805.28
                  (Rake: $2.80)
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                  01-20-2013 , 07:35 PM
                  Ship the biggest pot of my life weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

                  Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2072474
                  DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                  BTN: $108.00
                  SB: $398.93
                  BB: $903.47
                  UTG: $1130.63
                  MP: $402.12
                  Hero (CO): $1162.35

                  Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with A A
                  UTG raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $25, 3 folds, UTG raises to $55, Hero raises to $185, UTG calls $130

                  Flop: ($373.00) 6 K A (2 players)
                  UTG checks, Hero bets $188, UTG calls $188

                  Turn: ($749.00) 7 (2 players)
                  UTG checks, Hero bets $422, UTG raises to $757.63 all in, Hero calls $335.63

                  River: ($2264.26) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

                  Final Pot: $2264.26
                  UTG shows K K (three of a kind, Kings)
                  Hero shows A A (three of a kind, Aces)
                  Hero wins $2261.46
                  (Rake: $2.80)
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                  01-20-2013 , 07:38 PM
                  Your a good beginner

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                  01-20-2013 , 07:51 PM
                  Whats the best thing to do there w KK preflop when sodeep?..

                  if he reraises and then faces another reraise, isnt it obv at this point what he is against as 7bet bluffing is somethin that no1 does when over 500bb deep
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                  01-20-2013 , 08:04 PM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by khangura175
                  Whats the best thing to do there w KK preflop when sodeep?..

                  if he reraises and then faces another reraise, isnt it obv at this point what he is against as 7bet bluffing is somethin that no1 does when over 500bb deep
                  Not to give too much away since i play vs a lot of people itt, but I 3b ip deep a ton for this exact reason, it is extremely tough to play a pot oop without initiative vs an aggro opponent, must people just end up playing passivly both preflop and post so they wont 4b QQ or even KK, and will just check call and hope for a good board run out. If i was villain vs me, i would play it the same. I also call 4bs with 73ss so it entices people to 4b me lighter then they probably should etc rant/
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                  01-20-2013 , 09:25 PM
                  Tired plus Table ninja makes a blunder. Luckily i had the best hand.
                  have opened to 13bb to

                    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                    Hero (BTN): $11.68 (116.8 bb)
                    SB: $9.60 (96 bb)
                    BB: $10.35 (103.5 bb)
                    UTG: $12.96 (129.6 bb)
                    MP: $12.67 (126.7 bb)
                    CO: $10.92 (109.2 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 9
                    2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, CO calls $0.45

                    Flop: ($1.65) 7 A 5 (2 players)
                    CO checks, Hero bets $0.90, CO calls $0.90

                    Turn: ($3.45) 5 (2 players)
                    CO checks, Hero checks

                    River: ($3.45) 2 (2 players)
                    CO bets $1.60, Hero raises to $5.49, CO folds

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $6.65 pot ($0.30 rake)
                    Final Board: 7 A 5 5 2
                    Hero mucked 9 9 and won $6.35 ($3.10 net)
                    CO mucked and lost (-$3.25 net)
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                    01-20-2013 , 09:58 PM
                    villain should probably call his entire flop calling range as you will double barrel your entire value range because of the flop/turn texture

                    Therefore your river hands are 90% bluffs and he can hero call pretty wide
                    pretty suprised he's not calling actually

                    Only hand you would play like this would be 22 and you probably wouldn't 3b that hand either

                    Why would you check the turn when you want to get stacks in on the river with your entire value range

                    also why would you give anyone in the world a free card on such a drawy board

                    only hands that raise river are bluffs and 22

                    *on second thought maybe 5555 but 3betting that no probably not your range is 100% bluffs
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                    01-20-2013 , 10:08 PM
                    Table ninja plus tiredness means i misclicked on river, didn't mean to raise at all. Bang on about my range frosty.

                    Much prefer playing with the nuts, its so relaxing knowing you don't have to fold If you don't already know i hate folding. 3rd st8 flush of the year. 1 RF.

                      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                      Hero (BTN): $10.98 (109.8 bb)
                      SB: $12.17 (121.7 bb)
                      BB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
                      UTG: $38.63 (386.3 bb)
                      MP: $10.36 (103.6 bb)
                      CO: $9.29 (92.9 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 8
                      UTG calls $0.10, MP folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, SB folds, BB calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25

                      Flop: ($1.45) T 7 J (4 players)
                      BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, CO folds

                      Turn: ($2.95) Q (3 players)
                      BB bets $2.10, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.10

                      River: ($7.15) J (2 players)
                      BB bets $3.40, Hero raises to $8.03 and is all-in, BB calls $3.70 and is all-in

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $21.35 pot ($0.96 rake)
                      Final Board: T 7 J Q J
                      Hero showed 9 8 and won $20.39 ($10.34 net)
                      BB showed K J and lost (-$10.05 net)
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