Gay weed poker marriage in 2020, heard it here first.

it looks like poker might not be getting any tougher anymore. there are maybe even some more bad players plus people have learned to play better vs. tight players that now are considered donators. reading those posts above also show that the quality has dropped all over as there was a time when things were tougher at 2 2 also. it seems things have relaxed some since the regulations started and players got more booked.

Ah, an American chimed in.

Weed being federally legislated within 6 years is second to online poker being federally legislated within 3 years on the comedic scale. Let the 20-year-old non-Americans on a little secret here. Weed has grey hairs in power brainwashed by myths decades old. Then you have the Christian coalition in everyone's pocket.

Of course, if someone can come up with more bank (campaign contributions), then they'll be persuaded into listening to a different point of view. Highest bidder wins, and the Christian right has the biggest bankroll (Reed/Pokerstars vs Christian right; look at that flip-flop).

Finally, there's a ton of money in keeping it illegal. From textile manufacturers lobbying against marijuana due to hemp being a far superior fiber to government jobs being lost due to nothing to enforce, it's a long way away. First, most all states will need to have medical dispensaries in place and quite a few more states with state legalization before any federal bill circulates.

Y'all non-yanks can Google Schoolhouse Rock How a Bill Becomes a Law to view the process. If it were something simple, it could be attached as a rider on an important, must-pass piece of legislation during an election year. Example: UIGEA, when proposed on its own, did not pass. When it was attached to a port security bill during an election year, no one wanted to be the face that voted no against securing our harbors against terrorism, and so it passed.

There is no bill that online poker could be snuck into on a rider, so don't entertain that idea. Gambling in general has always had the connotation of being tied to organized crime; make the gaming offshore, and watch all the xenophobes say online poker is organized crime funded by terrorism, so it was very easy, albeit clever, to attach it to a security bill to meet one's Christian agendas.

/politard

End of lesson, Mrspew. If you want action on escrowing for the 2017 bet, PM me. Win or lose, I'll pay double the market interest rates on the escrowed money.

First, let's be clear about one thing. In most of the United States, playing poker, online or live, is not illegal, as there is no law against it. However, banking regulations and other means to make it more difficult are certainly out there.

That said, since online poker is not addressed by any federal law, it is a state-by-decision, and at least two states (New Jersey and Nevada) have explicity legalized and regulated online poker, sites are up, and players are grinding. The District of Columbia has also explicity legalized online poker, but I'm not aware of any sites going up.

So, things are happening, some states will come on board, and others won't. There are three ways that this could work out reasonably well for US players.

1. Good--It could come to your state. In a state like mine with a decent population (about ten million) it would be a semidecent player pool, or at the very least, another option.

2. Better--There is talk of forming interstate compacts, where several states get together and enlarge the player pool. Since there are already multistate lotteries, this shouldn't be too hard ro figure out.

3. Best--As either of the first two options become more widely available, the US government will want a piece of that pie. People with cash income (including poker players in the US who play home games or in casinos or charity rooms) greatly underreport their winnings to the government, if they report them at all.*

But if I play on starsandstripespoker.com, there is an electronic trail of every hand that I play, and ever dollar that I win. The Internal Revenue Service would really enjoy that situation.

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*Advocating tax evasion in these forums is not allowed, and I am not doing so. As a musician I have always reported all of my cash income long before I was a poker player.

I haven't being following U.S. stuff. When will we outsiders be allowed to play on US sites?

Hopefully, never.

Not sure if xenophobe or just want to keep the fish to yourself.

Cliff,

There's a reason why i used the words "federal" and "legislation" every single time. That's because we all know about the state by state initiatives and that it's never been illegal to play except in states that have laws against playing online poker (e.g., Washington).

Not sure what you're really trying to say, but if anyone wants to escrow a good amount of action on a federal bill passing by 2017, PM me.

I'd take action on poker being legal by 2017 (against, obviously). Probably would take 2:1 on it (sorry to ruin your line z4, lol).

Pretty laughable to think it will be legal within a few years or that weed will be federally legislated within 6. I'm not sure if I'd take even money it'll be illegal in 12, though.

You are correct, you never said that online poker was illegal in the United States. However, there are a lot of people, even on these forums, who are asking when US poker will be "legalized". When this topic comes up, I'm always aware that a lot of people other than the one who posted are reading what I say, that's why I emphasized that point.

Obvious $$ grab.

Seems likely as so many people are creating tools, videos and mechanisms to make players better. This makes games tougher and obvious makes it less fun for bad players who tend to lose even faster in todays climate.

It is crazy how easy high stakes online was just 10 years ago, and how incredibly tough all games seem now. Notice so many "crushers" from the previous era are selling coaching, books, learning devices, literally anything except play and beat the games today because their hourly would be abysmal trying to win now.

I thought of another BIG game changer!! I was doing some research into poker Bots just out of curiosity and I stumbled on a site where you can play against a table of bots who adjust to you, called 'neo bot' *(Google it)

This got me thinking that there will one day be bot sites where you can play against loads of bots in any game type and the bots will play a varied style (but playing game theory optimal play), these sites will have software that will tell you what you are doing wrong against the bots range.

If you don't think this will happen then check out this link about a bot that prob made $1mill -$3mill and apparently beat the mid stakes and higher. The technology in 5 years will be way better.

http://www.cardrunners.com/blog/vern...f-online-poker


But the BIG change will be that players under 18 will be able to log realistic playing hours against tough opposition and make realistic 'play money', so when they deposit real money they will be able to crush the games. So you could get a child start playing at the age they start using computers.

Thoughts??

It already exists. It's called Pokersnowie.


I haven't thought much about it before but it seems Pokerstars could simply encrypt the hole card text instead of writing it as plaintext in the logfile when the hands are played.

Marco Traniello and Jennifer Harmon's twins will be unstoppable when they turn 18.

obviously the game will always get tougher but it doesn't mean it will be unbreatable. at least not anytime soon. this forum along with many books and software are to blame. it actually amazes me how many people are willing to give solid advice for free on this forum. it's like they either don't understand why they win or they just don't give a f*** n rather have the badge of honor.

stupidest advice ever... why don't you just agree to coach them for free. anyone that gives away free information that they are profiting from is more stupid than the idiot that dumped his 100bb stack with TPTK agaisnt the table nit.

wow this is an old thread... how did it end up on my front page? sry for the triple bump...

Last post was in 2014 so....errrrrrr, you bumped?

Not possible to bump any more.--