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Originally Posted by Gonso
What kind of stats are you guys cranking out at uNL 6-max, 18/15/3 or something like that?
I've been talking about the real nano stakes here, where buyins are 200bb or 250bb -- .01/.02 and .05/.10 on stars.
This was from when I was starting out. I got destroyed for a while and ended up at these nanostakes to get my legs under me, then started moving up.
I know this is a small sample, but it's all I've got. Standard Dev. is 200 Big Bets/100 over these hands. I'm not up to speed on calculating confidence intervals for what the sustained winrates might be. I'm NOT posting this to prove any point, this could obviously show a lot of variance. Mostly I just think it's funny that I have 2000k hands, as someone suggested, close to the derided 25/11, 33/14 range.
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u, my friend, are NOT making a profit from the blinds. if u r it means ur playing in correctly from the blinds but are lucking out in the short term atm
I'm not sure I understand. My net from the blinds is green (same set of levels) -- does that somehow indicate poor blind play?
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Originally Posted by 7stud
Sorry to ask this again, but I don't get TWO and what relevance the stack size has. Why would you not call(fold?) with a small pocket pair and a smallish stack has limped behind? How does the fact that the limper has a smallish stack v. a deep stack affect your decision?
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Stack size is paramount in no limit at all times. With a speculative hand, you are generally getting horrible pot odds preflop. A hand that figures to be best one time in 12, say, is getting 1.5 to 1 from a raise to 3bb. In order for that to be profitable, you have to win 8 times as much as your call, ON AVERAGE, when you hit.
If your opponent only has 30bb, and bets 4bb to you, the MOST you can win is 30bb. While that may sound like enough, you won't always get the whole stack. You might only get it half the time, say. The short stack caps the max payout, so the average payout is not enough to justify the call. (don't forget, you'll occasionally lose a big pot here, too)
If the shortstack does have enough to justify a call, he might not have enough for you to raise. If you don't figure you can get him to fold to your 3bet, you are destroying your own implied odds by raising.
Always be thinking about how much you can really expect to win by hitting your hand (it's often less than you think). Read some of the excellent threads about set mining for the good math.
here's
one incredible post
and
a more straightforward one about implied odds
and
one more that is only partially relevant, but thoroughly awesome nonetheless
damn, I'm spinning greatest hits here:
Pokey advocates open-limping in his "optimal micros play" post
but I can't find the good implied odds of setmining thread. I'll keep searching.
Last edited by gedanken; 04-01-2008 at 01:19 AM.