Just had a nit 9/5 over 820 hands shove $3.40 all in to an unopened pot. 2nl game. He took down $0.03 in blinds.

I have seen this once or twice previously. Not sure if it was same player or other nit.

Any ever see this at 2nl or more importantly anyone ever call and see what they have.

There are a number of players that do this frequently on Stars, most notably the infamous rs03rs03, but his stats are something like 11/8. He open shoves or 3-bet shoves AQ, AK, QQ, KK.
With this ridiculous strategy, rs03 roughly breaks even playing 200,000 hands a month.

I immediately thought of the guy Arty mentioned. He plays AA normally BTW.

Declan, it's going to be a good hand when nits do this. If you have AA/KK call, otherwise fold. Always take a note when someone shoves pre and you see their cards.

Thanks. It struck me as strange because it was a nit.
Cant imagine its a profitable way to play a premium holding.
I will not be calling them unless I have AA.

Sometimes they will open shove their AA KK for that reason alone.. someone with some history on them see's this and thinks the shove means some type of weakness like AQ AK.. so you call with 99/TT only to run into AA/KK... not a very wise move.. but i've seen it.. and done it as well at times..

low stakes.. sometimes when you flop 2 pair/sets.. and you got fishies around... open shove and they will call with middle pair... theres obviously better strategies.. but i think its funny when you see the right people at your table and do it and watch them call with bottom pair or Ace high.. this was pre bf and mostly 2nl.. but sometimes 5nl as well.. good times

The title of this thread made me think of a low budget TV horror movie, with the plot being centred about a poker player who keeps getting beaten by nits who shove. And he gets eaten at the end.

In relation to the question, nits who shove the micros are looking for a call with a premium hand often enough for you to fold the majority of holdings. Even QQ is arguably sent to the muck against some villains.

I would muck QQ against this line from a nit unless I've seen him do it with a range I beat.

If it's rs03 you can play perfectly against his shoves by calling with QQ+/AK. This may seem like oddly specific information but if you play 2NL Stars FR you need to know it because he will be at your table so often.

Most of the regs have wised up to rs's donk style. There's loads of comments on his play on PTR and his graph has recently begun a downward slide, because no one's calling the shoves any more.

How many tables does he play? 24?

He should move up to where people don't respect his raises.

A+

Well, if you insist on turning your cards face up, playing 100% exploitably and grinding so hard every 2NL reg gets 1000's on hands on you...even the Spanish players can probably figure out what to do.

Yes and oh yes, well played sir.

HEM2 has openshove% stats btw

Playing at the same table as this player again. He shoved PF again and was not called.

Saw him show down QQ in another hand where he open raised for 5bb.

So hes not shoving QQ

What's his SN?

FYP.

Funny, I was on party last night and a shortstack nit was shoving pre every pot he played.
Stats were 10/10 or something. He sat there with $1, open shoving and 3bet shoving.
Except the table was fairly nitty so I saw him do this about 5 times in 50 hands and wasn't called once, and was totally breakeven!

Preflop at 2NL there's no thinking involved... 4 tabling zoom I've been doing this recently and average about 2 BI's/hr on top of the other hands I play.

Built my 3$ roll up to like $41 so far. Pretty much just open shove AA//KK... there are enough short stacks or non regs who will call with garbage draws. Especially if they see you do this consistantly they'll think "He can't possibly have AA,KK etc again".

The problem with raising 3x is that too many players think "Its only 6cents" and you get 2 or 3 or more people calling you.. you potentially hit a terrible flop or they hit 2 pair.. and just let a bunch of people setmine, whereas you might have had that 1 guy call you with 66, or KK anyway and basically get a free double-up. Not that theres anything "wrong" with raising standard at 2NL.. just that if someone was going to call my 6c with some low PP or call my 2$ with the same PP anyway.. I'd much rather the 2$

Anyway I'm by no means an expert.. but its working out fairly well so far for me. Maybe its because I'm on zoom also. I wouldn't see this working past 5NL though and would definitely revert to playing "Standard".

My 2c

hes playing Zoom now?

Wait, is it even allowed to actually mention screen names and discuss tendencies of players? Do I sense the banhammer falling on this thread?

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if its a german player only AA+ in this spot

I was thinking of doing some EV calcs to see if open shoving KK+ maximised profit, but I'd need to know exactly how often the shoves get called and by what hands. Are you shoving a full 100bb pre-flop and consistently getting called by worse, and is it only half stacks that are calling?
I presume so. He was 24-tabling full ring 2NL last time I saw him, but I'm not putting in much volume at the moment and haven't seen him around lately.
Well there's a massive thread all about him somewhere. It probably breaks forum rules to divulge his apparent strategy, but there are enough threads about Phil Hellmuth's style of play, and various threads with hand histories of Isidurl etc and I don't think they got locked. :/
If rs03 had any sense, he'd start open shoving 72, knowing he's unlikely to get called, but I don't think he has much sense.

He's not playing Zoom 2NL 6max, other than that I don't know.

BTW he's now losing at -0.04BB over 2 million hands at 2NL. People say that 2NL players don't pay attention to their opponents...well rs03 has managed to overcome that barrier and get everyone to adjust.