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07-28-2017 , 02:17 AM

Soebr

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Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players

SB: 4,510 (11.3 bb)
BB: 11,157 (27.9 bb)
UTG+1: 16,321 (40.8 bb)
UTG+2: 17,851 (44.6 bb)
MP1: 9,790 (24.5 bb)
MP2: 5,570 (13.9 bb)
MP3: 5,000 (20.5 bb)
CO: 40,369 (100.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): 23,166 (57.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7

4 folds, MP3 raises to 1,200. Action to Hero.

No ICM considerations or player reads to consider.

Folding is probably too nitty. I'd think we could maybe fold 22-55 to a 3x open?

We can flat to set mine but we're going to have to fold to a cbet on almost every flop.

Jamming looks okay, but vs a 3x open I think it's unlikely MP3 is folding. His range is uncapped.

What's the best play here?

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07-28-2017 , 03:18 AM

sixfour

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it's either gii or fold, you don't have the odds to flat - given who's bolded i'm going to guess that the BB got it in and doubled through you

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07-28-2017 , 11:26 AM

Kurn, son of Mogh

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IMO, flatting with 77 is not purely set mining. Flat and play poker post flop. If BB shoves behind you, fold.

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07-28-2017 , 02:03 PM

ArtyMcFly

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Facing a 3x open, this is an easy fold for me. I don't do much calling at 20bb eff. I think you probably need something like 99+/JTs+ (or even tighter) to flat even vs a minraise, because you're basically looking to flop strong sets, two pairs, overpair, TPGK or a combo draw and then you're playing for stacks. Calling 3bb and then folding 85% of flops isn't very +EV.

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07-28-2017 , 02:15 PM

Kurn, son of Mogh

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No offense Arty, but (if you get HU OTF), why on earth are you folding 85% of the time when you probably have the best hand at least 40% of the time AND you have position?

IMO that's way too nitty with stack balance at this table and at this point in the tournament.

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07-29-2017 , 02:29 PM

ArtyMcFly

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77 realizes equity very badly (and it's a horrible hand to bluff with in most post-flop situations) and I like winning.
If you're calling a c-bet with something like 3rd pair no draw, you're not going to make money.

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