I just subscribed to it, its all well and good only thing im wondering is, If i am currently playing a hand i do not have much time to enter all details in to see if its +ev to push or fold, can someone guide me on what to do in these spots, help is very much appreciated.

Not sure what site you play on but heres the terms and conditions for Pokerstars


5.5EXTERNAL PLAYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS (EPA). PokerStars prohibits those External Player Assistance Programs ("EPA Programs”) which are designed to provide an “Unfair Advantage” to players. PokerStars defines “External” to mean computer software (other than that Software), and non-software-based databases or profiles (eg web sites and subscription services). PokerStars defines an “Unfair Advantage” as any instance in which a User accesses or compiles information on other players beyond that which the User has personally observed through the User’s own game play. We encourage you to read our Third Party Tools and Services FAQ.


So even if you could type in the details in time it would in violation of the agreement you agreed to. I suspect most sites will be the same.



You pretty much just have to get good at knowing what spots are plus ev. So play lots and keep using the tool afterwords to see if it was the correct play.

Hey i didnt know it was agaisnt the rules, i have exited the program, thank you for your reply, it helped me alot. cheers

You can use it. Just not when you are actually playing.

How is this "rule" justified with so many players using HUDs?

Please explain how ICMizer "accesses or compiles information on other players beyond that which the User has personally observed through the User's own game play".

I'm not sure ICMizer is banned under this particular clause of the Ts and Cs. It may be banned in connection with the next clause, which bans artificial intelligence. It states:

If you read the Third Party Tools & Services FAQ, you will see that ICMizer is in the list of software which is only permitted for use when the Pokerstars client is not running.

Approved HUDs do not provide AI or use data from games the User has not played in.

They practically define it!

EDIT: Whist a HUD won't actively play the game for you, it obviously has powers of statistical computation and recall that are far in advance of anything a human brain can do.

If you want to debate it more, I'll be in NVG.

NO I don't want to debate the nature of AI. It is sufficient to state that according to Stars, HUDs are not AI. HUDs are data aggregation and display tools, but not decision indication tools, and therefore they meet the criteria for what Stars will allow.