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05-21-2015 , 10:22 AM
Im pretty proficient playing 6max 4nl and 10nl online actually its pretty simple and it amazes me just how bad some "regs" are often playing way to tight polarizing their ranges.
Anyway I digress.

Simply put I plan on leaving work for a month or so before going to school full time . In that time period I will be playing Live to supplement my income. I understand 6 max online and 10 max live are polar opposites.

So im asking for some tips on the transition. How should I approach the game? What limits should I play? How often ?

Background
I have a $35k bank roll.

Over 20000 hands Im beating 4nl

Plan on playing in Oklahoma which attracts alot of oil patch players.
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05-21-2015 , 11:21 AM
First .. Live poker is much sssllloooooowwwer. So be ready for that.

Second .. That's a decent sized bankroll, unfortunately not so sure you will find games beyond 2/5 on a regular basis. (You may only find 2/5 on weekends to begin with as well!!) That may be a good thing since 5/10 can tend to be pretty tight in a casino full of regs.

Third .. doubt you will find a 10-handed game in any casino. Most will be 9 and some of the bigger games will be limited to 8 to provide 'space' at the table. 10-handed is pretty much limited to tournament play. Larger games may play short-handed quite often and may only run a full table for 3 or 4 hours before people bust/go home.

Fourth ... Can't help you with OK, but get a poker room app (Bravo is mine) and search for the games/areas you want to play and see what's going on before you get there and don't be shy about actually calling the rooms for information. There may be other threads on this site to help with those choices.

If you want to 'do' a weekend in Chicago. Horseshoe Hammond is almost always running 2/5 daily and 5/10 and/or 10/25 on weekends. It is just over the border in Indiana from Chicago.

As far as style .. I have found live much looser than 'net with folks looking to gamble and play cards .. not poker. Every table can be vastly different as well so sit down, get a vibe and play your game!! GL
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05-21-2015 , 12:10 PM
Nice roll, but I would recommend starting at 1/2 or 1/3 to get a feel for live play and some of the rules that don't exist in the internet game.

Live is entirely different than online. No HUD, a lot of stuff going on, and if you have been multi tabling online, you will find the pace of live games extremely slow.

You can move up as soon as you feel comfortable.

Check out the Live Casino Poker forum to see the shenanigans that goes on in live games.


--klez


ETA: Rumnchess' Guide to Live Poker

Last edited by klezmaniac; 05-21-2015 at 12:26 PM.
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05-21-2015 , 12:43 PM
Going from 6max to full ring you'll want to tighten your opening ranges. Going from online to live, you'll want to cbet with air less. You'll also want to open much larger with value hands, perhaps 5x to 10x depending on table dynamics.

The game is slow which can cause players to play too many hands. While it's good to keep your mind occupied, your attention should still be on the hands rather than watching a movie on your tablet as an example.

This is live poker, so make conversation with the other players. Nobody wants to play with a robot. Never talk about poker strategy though. If someone wants to talk strategy, I generally just agree with whatever asinine thing they say.
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05-28-2015 , 01:33 PM
Hello everyone Id just like to take sometime and thank you for the replies. Another thing on my mind is the value of having a coach, do you think long term having a coach could be profitable?Its hard to discuss hands when virtually none of your friends are proficient enough to understand and I know that is big part of becoming better. In the absence of a coach I do plan on taking notes of bigger hands that I get involved with while taking note of who it is for the future. Is that acceptable practice in a 1-3 or 2-5 game will it hurt my image ?
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05-28-2015 , 10:06 PM
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Hello everyone Id just like to take sometime and thank you for the replies. Another thing on my mind is the value of having a coach, do you think long term having a coach could be profitable?Its hard to discuss hands when virtually none of your friends are proficient enough to understand and I know that is big part of becoming better. In the absence of a coach I do plan on taking notes of bigger hands that I get involved with while taking note of who it is for the future. Is that acceptable practice in a 1-3 or 2-5 game will it hurt my image ?
Hit up the Live Low-stakes NL forum here on 2+2.

Read read read. Post post post. Don't get mad when everyone in a thread disagrees with your original play because it was terrible. Instead try to figure out WHY everyone in a thread thinks your play was terrible.
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05-28-2015 , 10:48 PM
Getting a coach is hugely +EV.
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05-29-2015 , 12:07 AM
Start at lowest available stakes.

The action is way slower, use that time to observe other players and particularly what they stack off with.

Take a good look at everyone's stack sizes. It's not sitting there with a nice exact $ figure on it like online, so you want to know what everyone has. This is particularly true for the two or three people on your right and any exuberant whales, because that's who you're going to get into pots with.

Get ready to spend literally hours folding.

You will be astonished at how atrocious their basic preflop play is compared to online. I can't emphasise this enough...you will not believe it at first.

Try not to be a sulky little douche when you lose a pot and especially don't tell anyone off for playing incorrectly.

Don't discuss poker in any technical way at all. Agreeing that the board is "flushing a lot tonight" and other such nonsense is just fine of course.
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05-29-2015 , 12:14 AM
Also, my personal experience (in a different country) is:

1. Preflop bet sizes tend to be quite inelastic, what I mean is that players tend not to adjust for the number of limpers already in the pot. They can and do adjust based on their hand strength though so watch what they bet with what.

2. Take note of the 'standard' bet size range at the table (e.g. 3.1 bb to 6.7bb is standard at my place) and size your bets towards the upper end of that range, because you should be playing good hands in position and can afford to bloat the pot.

3. Postflop bet sizing is odd. For example, it tends to be mostly too small (especially with the nuts). Big bets/spaz raises are either bluffs to drive people out of a limped family pot (they will bluff for 1 street, followed with a check) or a good one pair hand that they are afraid will get drawn out on, or a draw. Also, odd sequences like betting $30 into a $60 pot OTF, and then another $30 OTT and then $30 OTR is common.
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05-29-2015 , 05:06 AM
I would go to 66/33 ratio between lowes nlhe or next. (first session .. lowest but as you get your feet wet .. I would recommend keeping eye on next level & taking a seat when things look good)

Play more solid abc untill you get hang of thing. Bet a notch or two bigger than you would online.
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