Good day, my fellow poker buddy's, today I have a question in relation to timing tells online.
The reason I pose this question is simple, I was recently owned by a player on stars, and I believe it's because I placed to much emphasis in his call/raise/fold speed.
So here is the scenario:
I was playing the big 11 $40k GTD on stars, as I do most days, I use software namely poker tracker 4, it was a few hours in and so we had just made the money, when I moved tables.
Immediately I notice a player I have 320 hands with, with a VPIP of 40% and a 3B of 16% and he has a stack of 55,000 with blinds at 1000/2000 (200)
On my second hand at the table I'm utg and pick up the beautiful ladies Q
Q
villain is on the button, I have a stack of 76k, I elect to make it 6.5k I choose this sizing because I was fairly sure I could get a call from the button but was also aware that I would be out of position and didn't want to offer the blinds good odds to call when the button does call.
It folds round to the button who quickly calls, almost as if he had the check/call box already marked, both the blinds fold!
I read this as quite a wide range as he is very rarely 3betting at only 16%out of 320 hands so I assume that 16% would be his premium hands as he has a VPIP of 40% I quite confident he is playing a wide range of hands in this spot, playing against a tighter player here I wouldn't place too much emphasis on his timing here but I just felt it was important.
Anyway the flop comes 9
6
J
this I feel is a good flop for me as most of his marginal hands preflop will have a little piece of this and can continue, allowing me to size my Cbets bigger than usual.
There is 17.8k in the pot and and villain has 49k behind I decide to make it 10k to continue and set up a shove with good turn cards, I expect villain to have hands like KJ with the K of hearts, Q10 with a heart although we do block the straight draws, he can have hands like 78 suited that will call flop A9 with the A of hearts etc, again he snap calls, I start to think of hands that would snap call 10k out of 49k stack leaving back a pot sized bet? It's at this point I start to level my self, although I'm fairly sure he is either drawing or has maybe top pair because surely on this board with a hands like sets and 2 pairs you would be looking to jam, right? Or am I wrong? Any way that's how I seen it, I convinced myself he was on some form of a draw, and mainly because I have the qq I ruled out some straight draws but the quickness in his pre and post flop calls lead me to believe he had some form of suited connectors.
The turn brought 5
probably the worst card in the deck for me, and after levelling my self on the flop, I really don't like this card, I think about double barrelled shoving, but really don't think this is a +ev line to take here and if I lead for say half pot and he jams I will have to call but I don't really like it, also if I check there is a huge posibbility he will shove bluff on this card as it's fairly obvious I haven't got the flush if I had the Q
I'd be more comfy check calling but since I don't I'm fairly unsure what to do here. I decide to check and villain shoves all in instantly I go into the tank and decide to fold, however I'm unsure of how much of a mess I made of this hand in paying so much attention to his timings
All feed back will be amazing, and if there was a more optimal way for me to play this I would very open to hearing and adding that into my game
Thanks for reading guys.
Ps sorry if I made any typing errors
Last edited by HoodedDonkey; 04-25-2017 at 11:02 AM.