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Originally Posted by khangura175
Im not saying putting money in on turn, thats not good..
Don't understand this. The only alternative to putting money in on the turn is checking and then folding if he bets.
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but if u check turn, and villain has floatyed thisflop thats VERY EASY to float on.. isnt he very likely to bet wiht like ALL of his floated range?..which obv includes aton of air that ur ahead of
Assuming he is the sort of player who is capable of this (which isn't clear from the OP) the way to own him is to make trap checks with actual hands on the turn and to bet with air to punish him for floating. Not to try to own him with 99.
99 just does not do very well against his range. The problem is looking at it with a binary "ahead" or "behind" mindset. When you're behind here, you are in serious trouble equity-wise, winning less than 5% of the time. When he's behind, he frequently has things like KJ or JT that win somewhere between 20 and 25 percent of the time.
If this were the river you could certainly check and call. But when you have to face another street out of positioned, he just has to work a few bluffs into his river value betting range and it is going to chew up too much equity. In poker you can't attempt to win every single pot that is rightfully yours from out of position. It's like if someone steals from the cutoff and you have A6o. You have odds to defend your blind in the sense that if you just called and then ran the board out, that would make a profit. But you can't do it because your hand has no playing strength and you're going to get owned postflop. It's the same here calling on the turn and then having to face the river out of position with such a weak hand.