Quote:
Originally Posted by venice10
People at low levels of poker take things to extremes. They're going to 3 barrel all the time. It will be obvious in an hour there have way too much air in their range. Then you just pick a hand to make a stand with and ride the variance train to profits. If there is someone is mixing a 3 barrel in with the 2-3 times they have the goods, switch tables.
The vast majority of the time, they aren't playing back at you. They have it. Get out of the way.
There is a breed of player who I have recently dubbed "The Awesome Possum"
If you are perceptive, you can tell when a player has switched into "I'm-an-awesome-possum-durrr-Ivey-Hansen-hybrid-superstar."
These players have it in their mind they are just going to outplay you and usually they just feel they can outplay everyone at the table in all situations. They get incredibly sticky and limp/call 100% of their hands, raise, and make river plays ALOT. This is especially true in any hand where they were the aggressor.
These players have an abnormally HIGH raising frequency and aggression factor. Basically, 75%+ of the hands they are in they are raising somewhere in that hand and raising river.
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Originally Posted by Mawller
I was just wondering, is there anything you guys look for, too help spot triple barrelling, too save you laying down a good hand?
any ideas for tells?
The thing I look for is to focus on sizing and how his sizing relates to the size of the pot and the board texture.
Let's say game is 2/5nl eff stacks $500, V is aggro in position and raises to $20 (as he does everytime he is on the BTN or CO) BB (loose player) calls, a rec fish from MP calls, LP calls as well.
Flop($80) Q
9
6
BB chks, MP chks, V bets?????
Now look at that board. The board is semi wet with a fair amount of draws out there. So what should V bet if he has AQ or KQ? How does V typically bet his TPGK hands?
What would we say about V's bet if he bet:
A) $25
B) $40
C) $55
D) $75
A) is simply too weak a bet for any significant value hand unless V was specifically trying to induce a check/raise. However, even though A) is a really weak bet and is exploitable it actually works quite well in getting villains to just fold all their airballs while enabling V to keep the initiative.
B) is a semi-weak bet, it is more of a "typical" c-bet and less of a real value hand. However, again, this bet works fairly well at LLSNL and can enable V to rep hands later and/or fold his villains out with future aggression.
C) is a much better bet that can work as a typical c-bet in which V has a real value hand or decent equity. V can make this bet with AQ, KQ or K
T
type hands
D) is pushing the bet where either V has a value hand in which he fears the draw and is trying to price it out, or V is trying to maximize his fold equity with a semibluff.
So V bets B) and BB and MP call, LP folds, 3-way action.
Flop($80) Q
9
6
BB chks, MP chks, LP chks, V bets 40, BB calls, MP calls, LP folds
Turn(160) 2
BB chks, MP chks, V bets????
A) 40
B) 80
C) 120
D) 160
In a nutshell, if V is triple barreling he is watching his sizing so he can get max fold equity at minimum risk. However, if V has a value hand then his sizing will be so he can get max value while giving incorrect odds to draw. If V has a medium value hand he will want to pot control as to not overplay his hand. (all this assumes V is competent).
So between the two actions on the flop and turn and with
your observations of how he has been playing all of his value hands in other spots, you should get a really good sense of if he is triple barreling with air or not.
For instance, if you saw him overbet a FD board with TPGK on the turn and then blast river then that observation is a great blueprint you can use to range V in this spot.
Last edited by dgiharris; 10-26-2014 at 12:10 AM.