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Old 03-19-2017, 08:30 PM   #1
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short stacking 2NL

I'm buying in for min at 2NL which is 0.80. How do I play short stack poker?
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:16 PM   #2
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Re: short stacking 2NL

What do you think would be the best strategy?
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Old 03-19-2017, 11:22 PM   #3
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Re: short stacking 2NL

why would anybody want to do this?
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Old 03-19-2017, 11:22 PM   #4
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Re: short stacking 2NL

Better question is why
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:26 AM   #5
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Re: short stacking 2NL

Playing short is a pain on sites without auto top off. On the site I play I wait till the action gets to me (or it crashes) then rebuy table max.

If the site you play on has auto top off, that is the best way to play short.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:30 AM   #6
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Re: short stacking 2NL

As said above why??? 100bb here every time, you're playing with scared money if you can not afford a 1000bb bankroll at this level my advice is go to free play!
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Old 03-20-2017, 01:05 PM   #7
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Re: short stacking 2NL

Let's give the OP a chance to respond now.

1) Why would you want to play short?

2) What short-stack strategy do you think would be successful at 2NL? We can then form more focused answers...and ask a few more questions. I can pretty much guarantee that you will not be "given" a short-stack strategy from the regulars here as we predominately disdain shorties at our tables.



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Old 03-20-2017, 06:27 PM   #8
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Re: short stacking 2NL

harrington on holdem says if you have a M of 20 or more you can play any style you want. with 0.80 and 0.01/0.02 blinds you have a M of more than 20.
so i can play any style i want.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:58 PM   #9
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Re: short stacking 2NL

Just play standard ABC poker, but note that having less than 100bb somewhat restricts your ability to go set-mining, or to call many 3-bets. Basically, you'll have to fold pre a bit more often than you would with a deeper stack. When you only have 40bb, you should generally avoid playing most of the low ranked hands (like 55, 65s, 76s), as most of your commitment decisions will occur on the flop, so making top pair = good, making bottom pair or flopping a 7-high gutshot = not good. (You're not deep enough to play turns and rivers with 'speculative' hands). You're looking to flop top pair or a draw to the nuts (e.g. QJ on KTx) and then play for stacks. If you whiff the flop, or flop very weakly (e.g. 3rd pr), you should mostly check-fold at the earliest opportunity. Getting it in with TP+ vs a worse pair or draw will be your bread and butter.

FWIW, I frequently play <50bb deep. It's plenty deep enough imo. Today, I called a turn raise and still had enough stack depth to jam 6x pot on the river. #PenguinMagic

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Old 03-20-2017, 08:03 PM   #10
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Re: short stacking 2NL

Just play tight and get it in when you get QQ+

Id probably be shoving AQ+ just to get lucky too.

You dont have enough to be playing around limping and call folding. So when you get it in, you gotta get it in good.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:18 PM   #11
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Re: short stacking 2NL

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harrington on holdem says if you have a M of 20 or more you can play any style you want. with 0.80 and 0.01/0.02 blinds you have a M of more than 20.
so i can play any style i want.
Didn't read Harrington on Cash. I have read all his tourney stuff. Did he really use M as a cash game variable?
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:47 PM   #12
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Didn't read Harrington on Cash. I have read all his tourney stuff. Did he really use M as a cash game variable?
I believe it was for tournaments as the title says. I haven't read harrington on cash either. I'm playing cash to improve my tournament game when I'm not playing tournaments since i work on call some of the time.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:17 PM   #13
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Playing short is a pain on sites without auto top off. On the site I play I wait till the action gets to me (or it crashes) then rebuy table max.

If the site you play on has auto top off, that is the best way to play short.
what sites have auto top off?
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:51 PM   #14
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Re: short stacking 2NL

ive just read harrington on cash ,(well couple pages left) and nah no M involved! although he does touch on short stack play and its pretty much what arty said your hand ranking changes a little so tptk is now worthy of playing for stacks, your tighter preflop and if you hit you just go for it, with people not being able get implied odds of hitting draws on you.
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Old 03-21-2017, 06:27 AM   #15
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Re: short stacking 2NL

op you are so heading down a path to nowhere.

Forget what you think you know and read a book like The Grinders Manual or join one of those video training sites, if you want to play cash...or just focus on your tourney game using (up to date) tourney training resources.

FWIW I tried a similar thing to you several years back (playing SS cash to help my tourney game). These things just don't work and they can inhibit your development for a very long time.

Players get good at their chosen games because they work them out though study, analysis and a ton of off table work.

If you want to short cut it, probably get a coach.

Just my 10 cents.
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