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Old 06-13-2017, 08:10 PM   #1
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Range Practice

Is there any way to practice putting opponents on ranges without playing in a game or by just going through scenarios in my head? If so, what are some tips or ways you have found to help? I am not 21 yet and am trying to put in as much work as I can in the lab before I turn 21. I have hit a bump though were I am not sure what to do. Taking me back to my question above, am I able to work on ranges vs opponents with no actual opponents except my mind hahaha or is that going to be something that you can really only do in-game,
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:50 PM   #2
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Re: Range Practice

You can watch twitch streams and put the players on ranges as they act.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:40 AM   #3
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Re: Range Practice

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Is there any way to practice putting opponents on ranges without playing in a game or by just going through scenarios in my head? If so, what are some tips or ways you have found to help? I am not 21 yet and am trying to put in as much work as I can in the lab before I turn 21. I have hit a bump though were I am not sure what to do. Taking me back to my question above, am I able to work on ranges vs opponents with no actual opponents except my mind hahaha or is that going to be something that you can really only do in-game,
Bearing in mind the opponent is the key ingredient here and you don't have one it's going to be very tough. I'd say experience is probably the main key here.

I'd say you've got to stay in long enough to get a read on the guys at the table so get a solid ABC game going first. Even if you have a players range he can still hit good cards so need to know how to play solidly before advancing to playing the player too much.

I watched a load of videos on YouTube and like and I have to say I can't think it helped that much. They tend to show only the interesting hands so skews the reality. I thought I'd never get in to poker because the big guys always play 7 2 off and win until someone pointed out that's probably the only time they've done it on a 4 day tourney or something. If you are going to watch videos then make sure it's the full game, not ZOMG highlights.
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:43 AM   #4
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Re: Range Practice

You can fire up a random table online and watch, whilst trying to range opponents.

This allows you to fully concentrate on the act without having to think about your own play.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:41 PM   #5
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Re: Range Practice

Find a hand history thread with many replies in the forum that matches the game you intend to play, but only read the top post and don't look at the results/spoiler. Open Notepad (and Equilab or similar) and list out what you think the ranges would look like. Now read the replies to the thread and see which things/hands you forgot to consider. By typing out your notes, you'll be more likely to remember the information, especially because you'll often be repeating yourself. Once you've done this many times, it kind of becomes second nature to think in terms of ranges.
Alternatively, watch training videos, but pause the action at the crucial decision points (pre-flop, on the flop, turn etc) and see if the coach mentions the hands you're thinking of.
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Old 06-15-2017, 01:12 AM   #6
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Re: Range Practice

^^ +1

Don't try and learn from poker on TV.
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Old 06-15-2017, 08:09 AM   #7
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Find a hand history thread with many replies in the forum that matches the game you intend to play, but only read the top post and don't look at the results/spoiler. Open Notepad (and Equilab or similar) and list out what you think the ranges would look like. Now read the replies to the thread and see which things/hands you forgot to consider. By typing out your notes, you'll be more likely to remember the information, especially because you'll often be repeating yourself. Once you've done this many times, it kind of becomes second nature to think in terms of ranges.
Alternatively, watch training videos, but pause the action at the crucial decision points (pre-flop, on the flop, turn etc) and see if the coach mentions the hands you're thinking of.
I have tried downloading equilab and it says that "the application doesn't exist anymore." I have a MacBook Pro. Suggestion?
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:13 PM   #8
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I'm sorry, but I know almost nothing about Macs. Is Flopzilla or Combonator available for your OS?
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:09 PM   #9
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I have tried downloading equilab and it says that "the application doesn't exist anymore." I have a MacBook Pro. Suggestion?
Although its designed only for PCs, you can use Flopzilla on a Mac by putting it on a wineskin. I did it. It works perfectly. I just followed this guy's instructions.

https://forum.redchippoker.com/discu...working-on-mac
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:21 PM   #10
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For Macs, we have PokerCruncher. Check out the thread in internet software forum.
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Old 06-17-2017, 11:19 AM   #11
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Re: Range Practice

There is a book called Poker Workbook: Hand Reading For Live Players Vol 1 which was designed for this purpose. It uses Flopzilla. There's another book he wrote for online 6-max as well.
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