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08-21-2017 , 07:04 AM
What should you do when holding QQ in late position (6 max) and reg 20/18 has 3 betting big poorly for value ????

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08-21-2017 , 01:22 PM
It depends
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08-21-2017 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
It depends
Thank you for deep answer

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08-21-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by zezva.tsabauri
Thank you for deep answer

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Hard to go deeper when you've provided very little information. Your decision will vary based on things like stack sizes, history, other players in the hand or left to act, specific position, your image etc. That's why "depends" is all one can really say.
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08-21-2017 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by zezva.tsabauri
Thank you for deep answer

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The issue is that there are very few reliable, static strategies in poker. Anyone asking 'what should i do in this type of situation?' or 'should we always do xyz when abc occurs?' always gets a 'it depends' answer.

I am not sure I even understand your question. Are you saying that another eg has three bet you, or that he has been three betting, and you want to know how to trap him.

I will say this in general-in most cases, you should bet the top of your range and the bottom of your range the same way.
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08-21-2017 , 03:03 PM
Assuming the reg is in the blinds, I usually raise-call in position, but sometimes I 4-bet and stack off.
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08-21-2017 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by zezva.tsabauri
What should you do when holding QQ in late position (6 max) and reg 20/18 has 3 betting big poorly for value ????

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It depends on position, the reg's 3-betting frequency, his fold to 4-bet stat, whether he 3-bets light. If he is in position pre-flop on button or in blinds, he may not give you as much credit for a big hand since you opened in late position yourself and you could 4-bet or just call.

What do you mean by "3-betting big poorly for value"? Do you mean his re-raises are large and he only does so with super premium hands like AK QQ+? If so, QQ is probably a flat out of position against this opponent since QQ is not doing particularly well against such a range.
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08-24-2017 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Strappz
Hard to go deeper when you've provided very little information. Your decision will vary based on things like stack sizes, history, other players in the hand or left to act, specific position, your image etc. That's why "depends" is all one can really say.
Thank you accepted.

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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove
The issue is that there are very few reliable, static strategies in poker. Anyone asking 'what should i do in this type of situation?' or 'should we always do xyz when abc occurs?' always gets a 'it depends' answer.

I am not sure I even understand your question. Are you saying that another eg has three bet you, or that he has been three betting, and you want to know how to trap him.

I will say this in general-in most cases, you should bet the top of your range and the bottom of your range the same way.
Thank you for answer . Yes I want to know how to trap reg when I am in CO with QQ ....

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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
It depends on position, the reg's 3-betting frequency, his fold to 4-bet stat, whether he 3-bets light. If he is in position pre-flop on button or in blinds, he may not give you as much credit for a big hand since you opened in late position yourself and you could 4-bet or just call.

What do you mean by "3-betting big poorly for value"? Do you mean his re-raises are large and he only does so with super premium hands like AK QQ+? If so, QQ is probably a flat out of position against this opponent since QQ is not doing particularly well against such a range.
Yes I meant that he probably value bets with premium hands..

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08-24-2017 , 08:50 AM
btw someone without 3bet bluff range is not a reg
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08-24-2017 , 09:25 AM
generally if he is tricky or will call off a big amount reraise big especially if you think he may think you are pushing him around.

if he escapes hands but also will go too far with a pair or top pair when the board is below queen high then you might try to trap him.

with queens you want to hit the flop if deep or win a small pot.
if shorter stacks you want to force him to get it in early as you can get run off when an ace or king comes.
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08-25-2017 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
btw someone without 3bet bluff range is not a reg
just because someone plays all the time and is considered a "reg" doesn't mean they have to have a 3bet bluff range.

Most regs are bad recreational players (especially in live poker). Judge them for how they play, not for how often.

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08-26-2017 , 03:52 AM
call and proceed with caution.
Pray a queen hits the flop.
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08-30-2017 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 33rdmatt
call and proceed with caution.
Pray a queen hits the flop.
I think folding is better:

1.if flop comes below Q you will tempted to continue play and eseely can be traped against KK or AA .

2. If flop comes with Q and in same time with K or A you again finished against KK and AA


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08-30-2017 , 08:22 AM
Can you troll your own thread? Could be a future HOFer .. GL
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08-30-2017 , 09:33 AM
Dear , I am not native english speaker for me hard to understand some tangled sentences ...

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08-30-2017 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by zezva.tsabauri
I think folding is better:
Folding when? QQ is the #3 starting hand and contemplating a fold because of what 'might' happen on the Flop is way too tight even for the tightest players.

All we have to go on here is "3 betting big poorly for value". Typically we don't talk about betting for value until after the Flop comes out. Some players are very different once the Board comes out.

Anytime you feel a player has betting flaws you should do what you feel is the best way to keep them in the hand. In most cases a 4-bet/shove will generate folds unless you are beat or stacks are short. You will take down the pot in most cases and that should make up for the times when you end up getting coolered.

At this point I think you are putting too much effort into avoiding traps and getting out-drawn. These things happen in poker and that's why you have a bankroll that can survive these spots.

For most live players your line of thinking drops down to 99 or TT and maybe JJ for the tighter players. Online, depending on the site, you may need to worry about setting the bar at QQ or JJ.

If you hold QQ and an A or K come on the Flop, whose to say you don't have one of them? When playing a hand you are playing your 'range' against your opponent's range. Certainly you want to proceed with caution in your head but automatically shutting down will cost you in the long run. The chips you gather when you play POKER, not cards, WILL make or break most of your sessions. GL
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08-30-2017 , 03:24 PM
good post answer 20, now you have poker figured its about time to get your pool game in that shape :-)
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08-30-2017 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Zee
good post answer 20, now you have poker figured its about time to get your pool game in that shape :-)
My wife says I'm in great shape at the pool ... What you getting at? GL
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