Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $3.46
BB: $1.98
UTG: $8.46
MP: $3.87
Hero (CO): $3.00
BTN: $1.43

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with Q J
UTG raises to $0.04, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.09, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.42) A 3 6 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.42) 9 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.20, BTN folds, SB calls $0.20, UTG calls $0.20

River: ($1.02) 4 (3 players)
SB bets $3.16 all in, UTG folds, Hero folds



Looking back I think this was my worst laydown today, however i would like to hear others' opinions.

It's clear that it's very hard for him to have Ahigh flush, because he checked turn. So Khigh is only thing that really beats me.
The fact that he called turn may indicate anythink but in most cases diamond draw, SD or two pair, set unlikely (if he is not crazy enaugh to check turn with 2FD).

On the river open AI may indicate busted diamond flush, but it's hard to tell (he was sitting at table just 12 hands). With small possibility it may be flush lower than mine. Maybe he is joker and he is valuebetting some weird straight or twopair 69 and he is not worried about flush because he is ok to payoff somebody with bdoor like that.

However my pot odds are 2.7:1 so I have to win 42% of the time to break even and that suggest that it's very easy call do you agree?.

worst fold ever

thx

Eh it's a 2.7x pot bet. Totally fine if it weren't for 2NL. Thing is, villain can be shoving worse flushes here. Should call.

this is a bad fold at higher levels too, just depending on reads a lot then..

call if u like money

UTG raises to $0.04, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.10

Are you serious?

So if it were 100NL and the pot were $51, and he bets $135 you will snap this?

It's probably a cooler, and calling is not terrible, but wow to think that this is a snap...

What do you put on the villain, assuming this is at SSNL or above, that you can beat?

I'm not insta calling by any means but i'm certainly not gonna fold here. I'm pretty sure most villains at 2NL don't overbet shove the nuts on the river, I'm thinking that with the nut flush he's gonna be value betting

Looks like Aces Up 2 me

No way is this is a snap call...but I don't fold here...

Just a quick question to the people who said they are never folding here.....if your never folding then what is there to think about before you call?

I'd be thinking what cards would he min raise UTG and flat my 3bet that could beat me that he hasn't bet the flop with.

I'm sorry but this an easy snap call, you only lose to A-x and K-x of clubs

You can't assume that the donks at 2nl have any sense.

I've seen plenty of micro villians shove here with the nuts as well as complete air, and everything in between. The funny thing is, that when they're holding a monster they will still get called, probably because it looks like such a bluff. And micro donks hate to get bluffed, it messes with their pride.

Now the other thing is, that there are tons, literally tons of villians who play any two suited, just to make a flush. So, I'm calling here barring any other reads, because it's 2nl.

Also, if you're going to 3-bet pf, make it around 4x the raise.

UTG folded to the sb's river shove.

^^My bad.

FMP

So you just wait a while before you click the call button?

More semantics. I think the phrase "I'm insta-calling" as opposed to "I'm never folding here" is just about the level of certainty one has of the situation.


or maybe he just wanted to take a moment to replay the hand in his head before calling, and after such thought and deciding that he will pretty much always call in that situation, then posts here about how he will never fold. I don't think describing it as "an insta-call" would be accurate, even though, according to what you're insinuating, any call that you look back on and decide that you would always make in that situation could be described as an insta-call, even if it requires a little bit of thought before clicking the button. Like I said, the label "insta-call" is about applying a level of certainty to the situation, is it not?

imo this is like folding middle set against a TAG on a very dry board......

Fold if you want to play like harrington.

spoiler tag ruined thread, imo.

Harrington wouldn't fold middle set on a dry board. He even mentions it in his book about someone laying down a set because they think the villain has a higher set. I can't remember his exact words but he pretty much said that's stupid to lay that down.