Originally Posted by Duncelanas
How can we have metagame against a guy we have no reads on?
Maybe meta game is the wrong word for the readless situation I am talking about. For example in the old days before moshman sng strategy, it was very uncommon for someone to isolate wide versus a limper for 10bb. It became very common for light ships after this book, so the donks stopped folding (because l/c is their bread and button play with A7o or w/e). After that, reg ships over 10bb for a while became very read specific because they could expect certain players to call light.
Donk bets, 3bets in specific situations have all changed in meaning over the last few years, so the exploitative strategies have changed too. There hasn't really been so much adjustment by the bad players (but certainly some) but these tendencies have effects on the competent players. There is more information in that maybe on reg runs these stats and another runs another, but when someone cbets xyz% it means something different on average than it meant a few years ago.
To some degree, we are all playing against population tendencies, espech in multihanded situations as our specific reads begin to deteriorate with the increased number of opponents we play.
Maybe Mersenneary at husng.com makes a video about the correct exploitative play against current standard stratagies, and now the new correct exploitative play that exploits the new strategy and so on. Yesterday very light utg 5bb ranges lead to light isolation as the reg on reg sng readless metagame changes every day.
Sure lots of times we are playing against someone we know has very specific tendencies, but lots of times we playing someone who's play this week varies from their play two months ago due to a number of factors. A general strategy is probably a more useful exercise the larger the player pool imo.