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06-06-2017 , 12:06 PM

Newagedonkey

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Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 4

Hey all, my first day here and I want to improve my PLO tournament strategy.

A weird hand came up yesterday. I have about $25,000 chips and blinds
Were $500/$1000

Long story short the pot was limped 5 way.

Flop is 7c 6c 5s

My holdings were 84xx no redraw.

I checked in early position, and it gets re pot to me.

At this point I'm playing to win the tournament. And I absolutely knew his holdings. And I was 1000% sure I was ahead here.

But I'm not a favorite against a wrap draw with combo flush, or even against a flush draw only.

I folded.. is this a profitable play?

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06-06-2017 , 12:19 PM

sixfour

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so you're saying it's been potted and repotted before it gets back to you? seems like a trivial fold, hard to imagine that at least the repotter doesn't have 89, and if not you're likely going to have to hold against both the flush draw and boat draws if you're actually ahead right now

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06-06-2017 , 12:30 PM

Newagedonkey

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What I meant was I checked the flop and he pots it. It wasn't much money but i didn't feel this was the spot to commit those chips. If i call the flop and get a bad turn card I'm screwed.

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06-06-2017 , 12:31 PM

BDHarrison

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Feels like a hand you should have folded preflop unless you were the BB.

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06-06-2017 , 12:36 PM

Newagedonkey

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Originally Posted by BDHarrison

Feels like a hand you should have folded preflop unless you were the BB.

Yes I was in blind .

I guess my thing here is, if it's profitable to fold
A bottom flopped straight knowing your ahead
but knowing that a wrap straight draw and flush draw
Has a higher percentage to win??

Not playing scared poker.

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06-06-2017 , 01:11 PM

BDHarrison

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It's a tournament, which requires different strategies from cash games. Sometimes, you have to fold when calling is +EV chip-wise but -EV from an overall tournament perspective.

In a cash game, this is an easy fold. In a tournament.....if you say you know exactly what he has, then it would be reasonable to call with the intention of potting the turn on a safe card. If you have to fold the turn, you still have 19BB left, so calling the flop doesn't cripple you.

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06-06-2017 , 01:46 PM

VBAces

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It is a 5-way pot. Can you explain how you knew, with absolute certainty, what he had?

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06-06-2017 , 02:55 PM

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

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Originally Posted by BDHarrison

In a tournament.....if you say you know exactly what he has, then it would be reasonable to call with the intention of potting the turn on a safe card

Any five, six, seven, eight, nine or club may put villain ahead if he currently isn't, any four may put villain level with hero, any spade puts another flush draw out there...

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06-06-2017 , 03:15 PM

sump

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The thing about PLO is that you can have a nutty hand in NLHE standards such as a second straight or flush or whatever and still be a bit of a dog to a huge draw or a monster.

This hand is a somewhat trivial fold knowing that you have no redraws and could be absolutely crushed.

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06-06-2017 , 04:11 PM

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Newagedonkey

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Originally Posted by sixfour

Any five, six, seven, eight, nine or club may put villain ahead if he currently isn't, any four may put villain level with hero, any spade puts another flush draw out there...

So the end result is I told him I will show him my made hand if he shows me his cards. He was nice enough to do it. He did not have a club draw.

But he was holding a wrap straight draw. Which he was a favorite.

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06-06-2017 , 05:31 PM

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otatop

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Originally Posted by Newagedonkey

I guess my thing here is, if it's profitable to fold a bottom flopped straight knowing your ahead but knowing that a wrap straight draw and flush draw has a higher percentage to win??

PLO is a tricky game, especially if you're already used to NLHE. Folding made hands is the right play a lot of the time, especially if it's like this case where you have a very vulnerable hand.

Being very general, you want even your made hands to have redraws to better hands.

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