Why does phil ivey only run it once when players get all in against him??? i remember a PAD or HSP episode where ivey was clearly behind against Durrrr and Durrrr asked how many times did he wanna run the board , ivey responded "Twice?" Durrrr looked really irked at the fact Ivey only runs its once but when he`s behind he asked for it to be run twice??
In some no limit cash games players can agree to run out the rest of the board more than once if they are all in with cards to come. Sometimes it gets run as many as four times. Here's a hand from the Pokerstars Big Game where it was run 4x.
The only reason to run it twice is if you can't take the variance (whether mentally or for bankroll reasons).
Being known for never running it twice is an advantage against players who want to run it twice. At best they may be less inclined to go arrr-in against you, at worst it may mess with their head a bit, make them hesitant, tilt them, etc.
Running it twice doesn't really change ev, it just reduces variance.
well It could if you brick brick the first time as you have 2 less "bad" cards in the deck but your net ev is still the same.
Of course it does, for future hands. If some players are playing scared money they'll think twice about getting it in vs Ivey. Effectively they'll be playing worse against him. These TV games often have huge buyins, with some terrible fish - exactly the kind of game many pros would take an underrolled shot at.
I think tilt+variance in the combination makes running it once +ev if you Suck out on them with worse they're going on tilt
Additionaly some people will play their draws very aggresivly knowing they can pick up 1/2 of the pot most of the time when they shove their 33-40% hands and get to run it twice
Where all the money goes in on the flop, and then they deal out 2 sets of turns and rivers. If one player wins both times, he wins the whole pot. If each player wins once, they chop the pot.
Perhaps the craziest occurrence on 'HSP' was when Patrik Antonius and Sammy Farha decided to run it four times for a million dollar pot. It's ridiculous really. PA just had top pair J9, and must have felt utterly sick when Farha insta-called, and he was somewhat reluctant to tell everyone what he had. But Farha only had KQs for two overs and the flush draw. It was a 53/47 race, so a chopped pot looked likely.
But it didn't pan out that way...
Patrik: "I have a pair. I have a top pair."
Farha "Hahaha! Bring us one more Patrik here! Half a million on top pair!"
Hmmm
Just on that video , Im thinking Antonios thought Sammy was on a flush draw so he check raised all in on the flop to maximize fold equity(wrong)? or mayby he though he had a small pair below 9`s ? and sammy would not call
He definitely wanted Sammy to fold. You don't bet 480k with a weak top pair, hoping to get called by worse!
I think Patrik was repping a set, but these guys have history, stacking off with draws in PLO. Sammy thought he was behind in this hand, and knew he had to suck out, but he must have expected better than J9. He can't have imagined he actually had more than 50% equity.
Last edited by ArtySmokes; 08-01-2012 at 03:58 PM.
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