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09-15-2011 , 12:17 AM
Dude I love you. Could you PM me or post an average Vpip for all positions? And what percentages should my went to show down be? Ill try and search tonight iPods suck at work. Thank you so much!
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09-15-2011 , 07:35 PM
could someone critisize my stats here? for some reason after about 50k hands my graph flat lines and i cant win anymore, the same happened at nl10 after around the same amount of hands even though i wasnt playing any differently



thanks!
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09-16-2011 , 07:20 PM
could someone critisize my stats here? for some reason after about 50k hands my graph flat lines and i cant win anymore, the same happened at nl10 after around the same amount of hands even though i wasnt playing any differently.

not sure why this keeps happening, perhaps once people have got stats on me they are finding it easy to screw me, but then surely this happens to everyone so how do u get around this?

appreciate any suggestions on how to improve my game, thanks

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09-16-2011 , 07:23 PM
what's there to criticize? a nice looking graph considering ur $50 below ev.
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09-16-2011 , 07:43 PM
Your stats have now been cRiTiSiZeD!!!1

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09-16-2011 , 08:03 PM
lol but the point is after 50k hands or so my graph stops winning and i just get screwed over, the same happened in my nl10 graph, here it is:



so you can see my graph shot up at first at nl10, but then even though i didnt change my play it flat lined then started to go down. i got annoyed and thought sod nl10 i will try nl5 instead, but now the same pattern is happening there, my graph goes up then starts to drop down again after 40-50k hands.

it must be to do with people screwing me over because of the stats they have on me or something~?
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09-16-2011 , 08:48 PM
11/7 is pretty tight, so people probably picked up on that.
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09-16-2011 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by javi
Your stats have now been cRiTiSiZeD!!!1

LOL

3bet a bit more. I think the main problem is you only 3bet for value with premiums and many people have huds. When you started playing nobody knows you so you were getting called more and people paid you off. With such a tight 3bet they will fold hands you want calling.

Last edited by Madjohnny; 09-16-2011 at 08:59 PM.
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09-16-2011 , 09:45 PM
Overall: time to add some aggression to your game imo.

You seem to be tight overall. Try getting AIPF with more than just AA some time. KK is usually good in these spots. Consider what % of the time villain has something worse than KK when you do get AA in.

Your low 3bet% and high fold to flop cbet%, and the big VPIP/PFR ratio (despite being a tight player) suggest to me that you are passive and do a lot of set-mining. Try 3betting from the blinds with more pocket pairs. (You're apparently reraising steals more often from SB than BB; that seems backwards to me. In SB you have less money to defend, and there's a small risk of getting multiway.) You're actually well ahead of a lot of BTN players' ranges and should consider this to be for value. You might also consider floating the flop if your pocket pair is 2nd pair or better.

As a tight player, when you make your hand, you need to get value. You seem to slow down on the river. Don't, usually. You leave lots of money on the table that way. He didn't "get there" most of the time. If he did he'll raise you and you can happily fold. Obviously if the board is super-sick then use discretion. Your river calls are turning out well, but you can't always count on opponent to bet. He probably has more marginal hands than bluffs in general, so don't miss value.

Steal a lot more - even if you get called, you get to play in position. Most villains won't adjust by raising.
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09-17-2011 , 08:21 AM
its true that i do do a lot of set mining, i always limp in with low PP in early position. and I think this must increase the distance between my VPIP and PFR ? is it better to just fold the low PPs in early pos? this way the gap between my VPIP and PFR would close up a little?

also im a little worried to 3bet with low PP in late position because then on the flop they check to you and you cbet but half the time my cbet gets called and then im stuck for what to do on the turn because i have nothing worth betting again.

im also wondering about how to play flushes when u hit them, say you are in posisition and he bets around 80% on the flop and u call, then u hit your flush on the turn and he bets, is it better to raise here? or slow play it and just call so you dont give your hand away?
what about if the villain bets the flop and turn and then on the river your flush is made and the villain checks, what is an optimal amount to bet? if you bet too little youre more likely to get called, but too much and he will fold. is there a good optimal amount?

also im wondering when i should call a 3bet, should i call potsized 3bets with JJ and TT ?

thx for advice.

Last edited by elliotuk; 09-17-2011 at 08:29 AM.
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09-19-2011 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Madjohnny
When you started playing nobody knows you so you were getting called more and people paid you off.
You raise a good point here. I also noticed that my winnings decline after a certain amount of time at a given limit. So it looks like people do a good job at adjusting to my play. In particular I find that value betting gets much harder over time. Villains will have a more polarized range when continuing in the hand. OTR I am facing the nuts more often than not. Two streets of value seems like a pipe dream, recently.
Let's say I was playing as following over 15,00 hands in September and people had a good grasp of it? How could I readjust and get more value out of my good hands?

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09-19-2011 , 11:05 AM
Erook.
On that line, what I notice is
1. Lowish cbet percentages on flop and turn
2. Very high float percentages

For the rest these stats seem solid and I'd mostly stay out of your way. I am guessing from this you are floating aggro monkeys with made hands a lot, but I could be wrong.
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09-19-2011 , 02:04 PM
>>Lowish cbet percentages on flop and turn
True, I am working on that. I figure that if I could bring up my c-bet, people will float more liberately.

>>For the rest these stats seem solid
Nothing about my high 3bet?

>>I am guessing from this you are floating aggro monkeys with made hands a lot
I wish it was made hands more often
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09-20-2011 , 12:10 AM
ok, new question...

Is it safe to say that certain days and times of day that correlate with the skill level of players at an online poker site? It seems weekends bring out the more skilled players. What times would you say there is the most dead money at the tables?
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09-20-2011 , 09:31 AM
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ok, new question...

Is it safe to say that certain days and times of day that correlate with the skill level of players at an online poker site? It seems weekends bring out the more skilled players. What times would you say there is the most dead money at the tables?
from my experience so far at PokerStars i would say its tougher during the weekdays and during the day, friday and saturday night is when i win the most cause u get a lot of drunks throwing away their money.
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09-26-2011 , 02:56 AM
Best time to play is when all the Europeans are on (middle of the night NA time), especially weekends (for NA, early morning sat+sun). Not that Europeans are in general bad at poker, just that more of them are fish.
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09-26-2011 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by halftilt
Overall: time to add some aggression to your game imo.

You seem to be tight overall. Try getting AIPF with more than just AA some time. KK is usually good in these spots. Consider what % of the time villain has something worse than KK when you do get AA in.

Your low 3bet% and high fold to flop cbet%, and the big VPIP/PFR ratio (despite being a tight player) suggest to me that you are passive and do a lot of set-mining. Try 3betting from the blinds with more pocket pairs. (You're apparently reraising steals more often from SB than BB; that seems backwards to me. In SB you have less money to defend, and there's a small risk of getting multiway.) You're actually well ahead of a lot of BTN players' ranges and should consider this to be for value. You might also consider floating the flop if your pocket pair is 2nd pair or better.

As a tight player, when you make your hand, you need to get value. You seem to slow down on the river. Don't, usually. You leave lots of money on the table that way. He didn't "get there" most of the time. If he did he'll raise you and you can happily fold. Obviously if the board is super-sick then use discretion. Your river calls are turning out well, but you can't always count on opponent to bet. He probably has more marginal hands than bluffs in general, so don't miss value.

Steal a lot more - even if you get called, you get to play in position. Most villains won't adjust by raising.
just thought i would post back to say thanks for your advice it has worked a treat! i have stopped limping in with low PP and just foldd them now and only play low PPs when there has been 1 raise and 1 call before me, and i have increased my 3bet%. Overall i have mostly stopped calling hands preflop and instead I am either raising or folding them and here is the result in the last 15k hands:




thanks again
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09-28-2011 , 01:38 PM
Hey, this is my first post on this amazing forum, and I'm in need of some help. Anything at all is appreciated. I'm really trying to learn how to be great at poker, I'm spending hours a day browsing through on this forum. But I just can't seem to make a profit.









Thanks alot for any help at all! If I need to share more information about my stats or w/e, please feel free to point that out.
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09-28-2011 , 09:39 PM
Borgeren . Welcome to the forums . I got as far into your stats to see that you are playing 30% of your hands and raising 5% of your hands . This needs addressed right away before any other stats should be used . You are playing 30/5 . This is very loose passive play . You want to be closer to around 15/12 for full ring . Start by reading the cotws . Focus on your preflop starting hands and learn how to play an abc poker game . Then develop as a player from there . You need to learn the very basic strategy first . Gl
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09-29-2011 , 06:30 AM
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Borgeren . Welcome to the forums . I got as far into your stats to see that you are playing 30% of your hands and raising 5% of your hands . This needs addressed right away before any other stats should be used . You are playing 30/5 . This is very loose passive play . You want to be closer to around 15/12 for full ring . Start by reading the cotws . Focus on your preflop starting hands and learn how to play an abc poker game . Then develop as a player from there . You need to learn the very basic strategy first . Gl
Thanks alot mate!
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10-01-2011 , 06:56 PM
Ok so i have recently installed HEM and have so far played around 3k hands. I know 3k is a very small sample but my question is if i carried on in this way theoretcally, making small improvements along the way, could i be a winning player? Have i made a good start (heading in the right way at least)?

Could anyone tell me some leaks and ways to fix them because i am not too handy with HEM yet (im learning though). Anything constructive would be appreciated, thanks.



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10-01-2011 , 07:29 PM
yes you could be a winning player
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10-01-2011 , 07:43 PM
Where is the EV line?

It looks like you're maniacal bet/shoving all the time running good;
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10-01-2011 , 08:14 PM
What makes you say that? What do i look for? I will add another image with the EV line.
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10-01-2011 , 08:20 PM
And yes i do overshove the pot if i feel it will win the pot i guess this is bad.
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