** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

[starscream1101]

Graph? Position stats from HEM or PT?

[starscream1101]

I don't play 6 max but here are your graphs...for some reason I couldn't get your links to show here so I had to copy them to my photobucket...I'll be deleting tomorrow,,,

[JoeO]

Thanks starscream1101 ive been tryng to figure out how to do tht

[pokerloser10056]

Originally Posted by JoeO

HI

Im looking for some help. I started a couple of months ago at 5NL and beat tht for 17BB/100 and after reading tht 5NL and 10NL are basically the same i stepped up and as you can see from my stats it hasnt been pretty. So I'd like you to to have a look and if you see anything wrong that could be losing me money then id greatly appreciate it.

Hey Joe,

You seem to be losing all of your cash in the BB and SB. Trying tighting up your play when in these positions. Trying only playing +22, AQs, and AK when in the SB or BB and see if that will help you increase your BR. Also take a look at your 5nl game, what did you change from 5nl when you went to 10nl? Chances are you are doing something different at 10nl than you were at 5nl and that is most likely your leak.

[Slaktalot]

I've been only a reader at this great forum for a while, but now my desperation forces me to break my silence. With my limited experience, I feel like I'm playing decent poker for this level, and the stats of most of my opponents say they would have no chance of being winning players in the long run. (Often having a VPIP in the 40-60 range and a PFR of <15.) Even so I seem to be losing a lot.

Playing £0.05/0.10 NLHE at William Hill. Using HEM, and my main stats for the first 12k hands are:



Graph:



Any help and suggestions are greatly appreciated!

[gangip]

seems like you may be playing a little too aggressive for nl10

everyone there is a maniac calling station, so you counter this by just value betting your monster hands and mucking your ****ty ones (so maybe you should cbet the flop less since you're gonna get called a lot. only cbet if you see a guy who has folded to flop cbets a bunch or if you have a strong draw / made hand)

[tjallen22]

I was/am having a similar problem. I was Cbetting 90%+ and getting called by just about everything. I started to cbet a little less, only on 'scary' boards, or if the action on the flop permitted a cbet, i.e I am in position and an Ace is checked to me, I will cbet the ace. Other than that I am starting to let a lot of the "marginal" cbet situations go. and just value bet the hell out of all of my hands. I am still fairly new to 10NL 6max but since I've started adjusting this way I have seen improvement.

[BaldBull]

Like gangip said, you might be a little too aggressive at this limit. I used to play 25NL and 50NL (was a winning player, but always need weekend money and couldn't stay rolled), and when I dropped to 10NL I realized I had to play much more passive. There is very little bluffing at 10NL and most plays are very transparent. Your stats look pretty solid aside from being a little overaggressive and calling 3bets way too often for 10NL. Most people here are only 3betting with at least 2 pair.

[Slaktalot]

Thank you very much for your input guys! It is also reassuring that you seem to agree. What you say sounds reasonable to me as well, as I play against so many stations that often to "stupid" calls that end up costing me money.

I am going to lessen my aggression and pay more attention to what is working at the level I am playing at instead of just "going by the book".

Tremble, calling stations - for I am coming for your rolls. The money. Not bread.

[Keyser112]

your graph is sick, especially over that small of a sample.
the above advice is good. you can play very straightforward at nl10.

raise constantly. play strong hands and play in position. never slowplay.

[ckas31]

Originally Posted by Keyser112

raise constantly. play strong hands and play in position. never slowplay.

Also dont cbet all the time know when you should check behind if you think that the flop hit your opponents range

[Slaktalot]

Originally Posted by Keyser112

your graph is sick, especially over that small of a sample.

Thanks for acknowledging that - it has felt unreal at times. The other day I lost 4 buyins at one table in less than an hour. All four situations I were all-in and had btw 63-91.7% chance of winning! But I guess that's poker.

[theskillzdatklls]

Not bragging or anything (hopefully). I just did a quick session at 10NL 6-max as a trial run for my backer before I moved up to 25NL for him. Here were my stats:





From what I can tell, you are playing much tighter than myself preflop (My pfr> your vpip), 3-betting fairly wide and you were super aggressive.

My biggest guess, from what I can tell, is that you are making most of your mistakes postflop, especially considering how tight you are preflop. It's hard to say without actually seeing you play. Having a reasonably loose preflop game (it is 6-max and its against donks usually), well timed aggression, stronger postflop and running better I think are the things you are missing most

[IamNameLess]

Originally Posted by Slaktalot

Thanks for acknowledging that - it has felt unreal at times. The other day I lost 4 buyins at one table in less than an hour. All four situations I were all-in and had btw 63-91.7% chance of winning! But I guess that's poker.

Well I'm pretty new to online poker myself, but one thing that could help you out, don't continue playing at a table you're losing. Just pick a new one.

[BeerBatter]

Just my $0.02 but it also seems to me that you are playing to many hands from the blinds, especially the small blind...you need to tighten up here and play your hands from position.

Beer.