** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

[boydy19]

Hey,

been playing poker for a while now but only just started playing cash games. Unfortunately i've been running bad into big suckouts, cooler hands general mediocre play and what have you, although i generally feel i've been playing good enough to beat 5nl.

I can't really make sense of this hand although i'm down quite a bit of money why does the $ won at showdown differ so much from the other 2?

[sulphh]

huh

[njpitcher]

It means you're putting money in the pot and folding so much that it far outweighs the times you actually showdown and win money (the good news is when it gets to showdown, you win money on average). Unfortunately, you're spewing and folding way too much, which I would think means you're playing way too loose/passive. Contrary to what you're saying, even though you're getting coolered when the cards are flipped, you're making money, so that's not your issue. You're not taking enough pots w/o showdown, and you're putting money in and then giving up way too much. My guess is youre running a high vpip, and your agg factor is probably pretty low.

And when you add the $ with showdown and the $ w/o showdown, you get your total $.

[Malefiicus]

You're calling too many flops/turns without plans for the hand. Just going "I hope I hit", or "Maybe he won't bet again". So then you put in a ton of money, and end up folding at the end. Decide how far you want to go in a hand before you make it to the river.

This is just a guess mind you, the graph doesn't really tell us anything, but this is the most likely culprit.

[Gruffalo]

Hi all. thanks for this great thread. I did post my stats in another thread, but i think the beginner's one would be more appropriate. I've got a lot better since joining 2+2 but i still need to improve loads.

here is the link to my stats:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...t=#post7766189


thanks.

[OziBattler]

boydy, i merged your thread with the official stats thread so you can easily find it and read it and because a graph in isolation is pretty hard to interpret. the first few replies to your graph probably nail it though. You have a negative red line because you arent aggressive enough which means you often have to fold when your opponents bets. As your game progresses and you get more aggressive you might find your red line goes positive but then you ahve to worry about your blue going negative.

if you want to post stats in this thread make sure you have at least 10k worth of hands. in the meantime, post some hands that give you trouble, reply to other peoples posts...this is a tried and proven recipe for success.

also regarding the bolded bit...i suggest looking inward for leaks. we get a lot of people saying they lose because they are unlucky (which might be true) but the reality is often they made mistakes that contributed more to their losses than they want to believe. that being said, you have a huge legup by being on 2+2 as most of your opponetns wont have even heard of this place. just do your best to use the resources provided and hopefully youll understand the crazy game better.

Originally Posted by boydy19

Hey,

been playing poker for a while now but only just started playing cash games. Unfortunately i've been running bad into big suckouts, cooler hands general mediocre play and what have you, although i generally feel i've been playing good enough to beat 5nl.

I can't really make sense of this hand although i'm down quite a bit of money why does the $ won at showdown differ so much from the other 2?

[Iron Tamer]

hmm, I have no idea why my w$sd is so low. Also yeah I know im off by 1k but im a bit anxious for some fead back =).

[pokerloser10056]

Tell me what you all think I need to improve on. Thanks.

[Shick]

A bit nitty for 6max. Steal more blinds. But gimmie 21BB/100 anyday.

Level?

[PEGtheBEAST]

I actually think you're playing pretty good, although you could afford to loosen up a bit, but not that much. Your button stats look really good and 21BB/100 is obviously great.

[mOeeOm]

You're so nitty

But I guess that's fine at 2NL, no one is going to care and notice.

[FreakDaddy]

You're not stealing enough, giving up your blinds too much, your WWSF is really low. You probably aren't c-betting enough (as that's a primary reason that # gets low). You're button and CO opening range is extremely low. Those stats can't really give you enough info, but there's some to start.

I offer database analysis, and it costs $149 for 30k hands or less, and $199 for 50k-100k. I basically make a video, and I run custom filters and can show you were you are losing money, not capitalizing enough in certain spots, etc... I typically can find between 4-12 significant leaks per video. If you are interested, you can PM me and I can provide more details.

[donkeykillin]

Stop being so damn organized and just play@!

[BeerBatter]

Firstly, just want to say what an awesome thread this is, really interesting seeing other peoples stats and peoples analysis of them (RoSeeker, loving your straightforward and easy to undertstand analysis)

Well, I went busto pre xmas by not employing BRM and generally playing awfully as I was playing just for the sake of it and chasing losses etc. Had $20 left in my account and made a promise to myself (and my girlfriend!) that I would never have to deposit again so have started from scratch. Read Ryan Fee's Guide and put in 22k hands between the 23rd Dec 2008 and now (so, just under 2 weeks)...graphs/charts below for analysis and comments:

4 to 6 tabling 6max as I find FR too laborious!

Let me know what you think and any areas where I can improve...Thanks!

Overall:


By Level:


By Position:


Graph of Poker Grindage:

[BeerBatter]

Bumpiddy bump bump bump!