** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

[Dunna100]

Originally Posted by seoulken

Dunna100:

Two things:

1) Your 25/19 SB Pfr is your third highest by position. You're probably restealing too much vs. aggressive button stealers, then getting called by the BB and btn completing, thus OOP in a 3bet pot vs. 2 opponents. Either that, or BB is folding and btn is calling. Your cbet is 75% out of the SB - that's just burning money.

2) You're not making that much money out of the cutoff, so something's wrong there. Maybe you're too aggressive and your raises are getting flatted by the button?

Just out of curiousity, what is your RWPC (raise with previous callers) by position?

Thanks, I appreciate your time having a look.

Does this show what you need? By position filtered to min of 1x raiser +



This may help also:

[seoulken]

Originally Posted by Dunna100

Thanks, I appreciate your time having a look.

Does this show what you need? By position filtered to min of 1x raiser +

No, that's not it. I'm not familiar with HEM2, but on PT3 it's called RWPC (Raise With Previous Callers). It's the stat that tells you how often you raise limpers. As you can see, my RWPC on the button is actually higher than my overall button PFR, and I think this accounts for why my button winnings are so high. Of course, this approach only works at stakes/sites where people limp (I play 10nl 6max on Ongame).

See if you can find the stat and post it.

[Dunna100]

This'll be it, they call it 'steal limped pot' in HEM2

[seoulken]

Originally Posted by Dunna100

This'll be it, they call it 'steal limped pot' in HEM2

Cool. Your button % looks good.

Your overall numbers look good, but once again the glaring leak is your small blind play. Stop raising limpers and 3betting so much, because you find yourself in some bad spots where you're always OOP.

I'd also tighten it up in the cutoff. It looks like you're raising limpers a lot here and the button is probably calling with a wide range. I notice your cbet is quite high, so button can float you a lot and take it away on the turn.

Everything else looks good.

[seoulken]

I need advice on my cbet/fold to cbet and 3bet/fold to 3bet stats. I'm moving up to 20nl - will my style cut it up there?

[Davion67]

I feel like my EP/MP play is decent but my LP and Blinds play is off. Any thoughts? I'm thinking I'm playing too many hands in general from the SB, calling too much on BB when I should be raising or folding, and I play BTN/CO too passively. Appreciate any help!

[seoulken]

Originally Posted by Davion67

I'm thinking I'm playing too many hands in general from the SB, calling too much on BB when I should be raising or folding, and I play BTN/CO too passively. Appreciate any help!

I think you're right.

You're 21/13 on the button - that's far too passive. At 10nl 6 max, I'm 29/21. My Raise With Previous Callers on the button (i.e. limpers in front) is 23%.

You're 21/12 in the SB, which is virtually the same as your BTN numbers.

Your non-showdown winnings have taken a serious dive. It looks like you're playing scared, passive poker.

Fold your blinds, raise with ATC on the button, and double barrel those limpers!

[seoulken]

Come on people, a little feedback here.

Originally Posted by seoulken

I need advice on my cbet/fold to cbet and 3bet/fold to 3bet stats. I'm moving up to 20nl - will my style cut it up there?

[Wendypearl]

Well for a quick glance i can tell you that you dont have a great PTBB/100 But i wouldnt worry to much about this just yet, of course you want to improve that but by plugging a few leaks i think you will get this done

[Dunna100]

@Seoulken
You need to sort out the gap between vpip and pfr. They should be as close together as possible, and anything over 6 is just too passive.

I think your cbet stat is a bit low, and fold to cbet bit too low tbh.

A TAG cbet stat is normally about 60%, and I think you shouldn't be folding more than around 50% as you're in the pot with a strong range already.

Your ATS is fairly low, if you're playing a TAG strategy. Pay more attention to the players behind you when in LP in an unopened pot, if they're tight and/or passive then be first in.

Your AF is also quite low which makes me think you're quite passive (slightly weaktight maybe?) and are entering too many pots passively, and then stationing the villain. I think this has worked against players at lower limits as they'll often just fire regardless, but the higher you go the villains will play better and take notice of ranges and board texture.

Just my 0.02c

[seoulken]

Originally Posted by Dunna100

@Seoulken

I think your cbet stat is a bit low, and fold to cbet bit too low tbh.

Your ATS is fairly low, if you're playing a TAG strategy. Pay more attention to the players behind you when in LP in an unopened pot, if they're tight and/or passive then be first in.

Your AF is also quite low which makes me think you're quite passive

You're right about the cbet/fold to cbet stat. I've been playing around with floating and delayed cbetting (believe it or not, my turn cbet is higher than my flop cbet).

Floating is villain-dependent, of course, but I'm floating anyone who cbets 80% of flops; this explains the vpip/pfr gap, as I will often flat a cutoff raise on the btn, float the float, then either bet the turn if they check, or minraise if they bet (you'd be surprised to see how many people fold to this).

Now that I think about it, you're the kind of dude that I float! 24/21 with a 71% cbet in the cutoff? I'm floating you all day long and twice on Sundays!

Stealing? I don't know man, sometimes it looks so obvious. Right now I got two dudes at one of my tables with decent sample sizes; one is 18/18 with 38% ATS and the other is 20/18 with a 39% ATS. Really? These guys play super tight and then magically wake up with a hand every time it's folded to them on the button? Could they play any more predictably? When you get aggro out of the blinds, these are the dudes you need to exploit.

You're right about the aggression factor. I PTR'd myself yesterday and got the big "F" on my flop, turn, and river aggression.

Thanks for the feedback.

[nchi88]

Hey I needed some help with my overall game. It seems to me I am bleeding money from the big blind. I first off wanted to know the average 50nl reg's BB loss, -40bb seems a bit to high ( I am aware you should be losing money with the bb included), but again -40bb seems ridiculous.
I know the information is a bit general but since the start of this 140k hands, Ive been 3betting a bit more and bluff raising cbets more towards the last 50k hands maybe 60k. I also throw in the occasional cold 4bet with a SB or BTN is 3betting like a monkey.

Or should i do the reverse tighten up and 3bet less, I dont find my self bluffing to much as 50nl regs dont fold to often.

Just realized this is it because I am running bad just looked at the EV/bb.



thanks in advance!

[Frostyice]

ehh -40bb looks fine to me, then again I'm no 50NL reg, but anything <-50bb looks just awesome, and I don't see any reason to change anything about that

[nchi88]

You really think -40bb isnt that bad? I went over some ebuddies database they were losing only half of what i was losing, thus forced me to make this post.

I was aware after i posted that my EV/bb is under ev, which could be the reason why I losing a truck more then usual. The thing is if I increased my win rate in the BB id be a bigger winner. A little under 1k over 150k hands isnt ideal to me.

Any thoughts on the BTN vs CO win rate?

[nchi88]

After going through alot of the picture posts from now till page 180, it seems most regulars (majority of them 25nl-) have around 23-30 -bb/100.