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01-13-2012 , 07:20 PM
DarkBrew:
here are a few things to look at
(1) preflop, you are insufficiently position aware. You are quite loose in EP, and too tight in cutoff and button.
(2) Your overall postflop aggression is too low. Your AggFactor is about 2, while 3 and up are good. Yoor Agg% is about 30, which means you are not betting enough hands for value.
(3) Totally unimportant but fun: how did you lose a hand with quads?
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01-13-2012 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fabadam
DarkBrew:
here are a few things to look at
(1) preflop, you are insufficiently position aware. You are quite loose in EP, and too tight in cutoff and button.
(2) Your overall postflop aggression is too low. Your AggFactor is about 2, while 3 and up are good. Yoor Agg% is about 30, which means you are not betting enough hands for value.
(3) Totally unimportant but fun: how did you lose a hand with quads?
Ty for the comments, and I will look into some of it. One thing maybe I am being too loose in EP is opening all PPs? I pretty much open raise any PP from any position. And I thought I had a pretty decent amount of post flop agg, I will look into it though.

and oh yes, the quad hand, I had to go look at it myself because I was like "wtf?" But anyways the board came KKKKJ (not in that order) and I had Qx and the other guy had Ax lol
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01-16-2012 , 06:02 AM
hy all my first post on 2+2 sorry for my english...
so i played 25k hand on nl2 and it's dramatic i can't win on that limit i'm a fish

here my stats thanks for u're replies comments etc..
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01-16-2012 , 06:32 AM
@yehi770 Can you tell us if this is full ring or 6max? Also, please post positional stats so we can check your VPIP/PFR in each seat.
A few things that jumped out in the stats above:
Your overall VPIP and PFR are a little too far apart. You're playing around 18/12. If that's full ring, try folding pre-flop a little more often and get your numbers to something like 16/12 by entering most pots with a raise, not a call.
WTSD is almost 35% which is also a little high. If you find a villain plays back at you on the flop or turn, consider folding when you only have one pair.

Are you really only betting 23% of flops after raising pre, or am I reading the stats wrongly? Your c-bet% should be much higher, about 60% at least.
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01-16-2012 , 06:56 AM
@ArtySmokes ty for u're advice

it's for 6max...
here my stats by positions


my cbet% is 61%


ty again
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01-16-2012 , 08:19 AM
yehi, you are very positionally unaware. You should play a lot less hands UTG compared to the button. Try tightening up by at least 30% and maybe 50% in this position. If you're new to this I suggest starting with an UTG range of AJ+/KQs and 88+, just fold everything else.

As Arty said, you are overcalling too much. Fold more hands which are easily dominated, for example if someone raises UTG, fold hands like ATo, KJs - you end up paying when the villain has a better kicker. Calling with pocket pairs to set mine is generally OK though, as long as you don't mind dumping them when you miss.
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01-16-2012 , 08:31 AM
@Mr Beer
my stats utg are 16/16 and on button is 20/12 its not good?

you'are right i pay too much; and i should folding more on sb 27/13 its not good i think...
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01-16-2012 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by yehi770
@Mr Beer
my stats utg are 16/16 and on button is 20/12 its not good?
Yes, 2 problems right there, first you are playing 80% as many hands UTG as the BTN, whereas it should be say 50%. Secondly you are calling a lot on the BTN, which makes a big gap of 20 VPIP vs 12 PFR. You should fold some of the hands you are calling with.

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Originally Posted by yehi770
you'are right i pay too much; and i should folding more on sb 27/13 its not good i think...
Yeah, don't play from the SB much, it's a horrible position so generally you either raise for value or just fold.
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01-16-2012 , 10:49 PM
Any help would be amazing ^_^ thanks in advanced

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01-16-2012 , 11:12 PM
@HeyitsClay Your stats actually looks pretty solid.

A few things that grabbed my attention:
C-bet% is 52%. Try and get that above 60% by betting more often (albeit possibly smaller) on dry flops that villains are unlikely to have hit.
Call 3-bet is 44%. That seems very high to me. What sort of hands are you calling re-raises with that you aren't prepared to 4-bet? I notice you've lost a ton of money cold-calling when there is a raise and call in front of you. In my experience, you should only be calling in those spots if you're set-mining against two deep stacks or bad players. Unless you have a monster, or have good odds to speculate in position, get out of the way when 2 or more players show a lot of interest pre-flop.

Positionally, you seem to have the same range in EP and MP. 11.9% in MP is working well for you, so I wonder what the problem is in EP. Maybe this is where you're opening, and you get 3-bet, so you call and play out of position. It's probably better to come over the top with a 4-bet/shove with your monster hands, and just fold to the 3-bet with weaker holdings. You never want to go to the flop oop without the aggressor's initiative.

Also try loosening up a bit more in the cutoff. You can often make quite a few steals from there by opening with suited Broadways and other hands you're probably only playing on the button at the moment.
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01-16-2012 , 11:27 PM
Thanks alot for the feedback, Glad to hear im not a total mess. I seem to be running pretty bad, I feel like im playing fairly solid and just running bad but seems im fairly in experienced so im not too sure if im maybe actually just completely sucking X_X
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01-17-2012 , 01:27 PM
I know I haven't played that many hands but I think I've pribably played enough to get some sort of trend.

Anyway, cheers for any advice in advance.

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01-17-2012 , 07:28 PM
@Kovacs The trend im seeing is you wanting people to take the time to help you when you cant take the time to read the guidelines for posting here
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01-18-2012 , 01:28 AM
@Kovacs. Not only is your overall VPIP very high, but it's at its highest in seat 3. You should player tighest in early position, and loosen up as you get closer to the button, where you should be opening much wider than anywhere else. Read some threads about the importance of position.

EDIT: Oh, you've played less than 900 hands. No wonder your stats don't make much sense. In such a small sample, your VPIP will depend largely on what hands you were dealt. Post again when you've played closer to 10,000 hands.
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01-18-2012 , 03:46 AM
Arty does great posts. I hang off his coat tails and hiliight the best parts:

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@Kovacs.Post again when you've played closer to 10,000 hands.
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01-18-2012 , 06:11 AM
Mr Beer 3-bets from the big blind with aces when I open UTG with KQs. He's taken me for upwards of 8 cents so far this week.
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01-18-2012 , 08:23 AM
I realised the guidelines, I was just wondering if there were any gaping leaks in my game that I could stop now. Anyway, thanks for the help.
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01-18-2012 , 07:57 PM
Kovacs: my initial reaction was exactly the same as Arty's: WHAT IS HE DOING?

Here is a gaping leak for you: Stop being so ridiculously loose from early position.

This has been your free money-saving advice for this week.
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01-18-2012 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtySmokes
Mr Beer 3-bets from the big blind with aces when I open UTG with KQs. He's taken me for upwards of 8 cents so far this week.
Hey, I'm pretty sure I stole your blinds a couple of times as well. Let's call it 10c and imma check my DB this evening to see how exactly badly I crushed your soul.
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01-19-2012 , 05:33 AM
Hey guys, anything you guys can see here for me to improve?
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01-19-2012 , 07:24 PM
jamie: I can't see easily whether it's FR or 6-max. For 6-max your VPIP/PFR is nitty, for FR it's probably on the loose side.
Your graph looks nice, you seem to have the NL10 crowd sussed out pretty well.
Some remarks on your stats:
(1) You are insufficiently position aware. Your EP/MP VPIP seem OK, your button and CO are too tight. You should be stealing and iso-raising WAY more there. It's practically free money, try it.
(2) You r postflop is good, especially your AF: you are not calling very often which is good at NL10. Your Agg% is OK, but could probably be slightly higher.

For NL25: just take a shot when you have enough buy-ins in your bankroll management schedule. I like the CardRunners principle: move up when you have 30 BI for the higher level, move down when you drop below 20.
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01-19-2012 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fabadam
jamie: I can't see easily whether it's FR or 6-max. For 6-max your VPIP/PFR is nitty, for FR it's probably on the loose side.
Your graph looks nice, you seem to have the NL10 crowd sussed out pretty well.
Some remarks on your stats:
(1) You are insufficiently position aware. Your EP/MP VPIP seem OK, your button and CO are too tight. You should be stealing and iso-raising WAY more there. It's practically free money, try it.
(2) You r postflop is good, especially your AF: you are not calling very often which is good at NL10. Your Agg% is OK, but could probably be slightly higher.

For NL25: just take a shot when you have enough buy-ins in your bankroll management schedule. I like the CardRunners principle: move up when you have 30 BI for the higher level, move down when you drop below 20.
Hey man,
Thanks for the input, im currently playing 9 FR. Will take all of this into consideration and keep on shipping.
jamie
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01-22-2012 , 08:01 PM
I wanted to have my stats re-evaluated. I'm still playing breakeven. I believe I've found my problem..and my solution? The Baluga Theorem.. I used to have MUBS.. then when I moved to 10nl, I have the opposite of MUBS when it comes to calling.. I think I'm great at value betting.. and betting thin OTR.. I think most of my profit is going back to everyone else because I'm calling raises too often post flop.. (So I added Call Flop/Turn/River 2Bet aka raise, I wanted to know if you think these are out of line)

I really appreciate your help Fab and mpethy. I really want to get down to the problem. Is there anyway I can pay a few bucks to get a bit more help? The help I mean is basically you tell me some more stats I need to post that I haven't included, and I'll post them for you to help evaluate even more. I have the time to play hundreds of thousands of hands, but I don't have the complete ability yet. I'm close, I feel like I'm very close..


Detailed Statistics for 10nl:



Positional Stats for 10nl:



Graph for 10nl:

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01-22-2012 , 08:28 PM
Was losing at 25nl, moved down to 2nl/5nl/10nl (popping abotu a bit) still losing - at my wits end. Please let there be something obviously horrendous in my stats so I can fix my game.

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01-23-2012 , 12:01 AM
chad....6Max or FR?

Your WTSD and cold calling seems high. (If FR...which is what I play....absurdly high for WTSD)
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