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12-03-2011 , 06:17 AM

#2601

gothninja

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Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,425

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Originally Posted by fabadam

Looks like this is HoldemManager 2.

Yep.

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Originally Posted by Mr Beer

get your stats from decent software such as HEM1 or PT3

Fixed.

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12-03-2011 , 06:29 AM

#2602

jamie814340

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Playing 6 max at the moment and yes HM2

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12-03-2011 , 07:48 PM

#2603

ArtySmokes

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Originally Posted by pat3392

my red line is ridiculously [flat and negative].
I have a million leaks I'm unsure of, what do I need to show you guys to see where the leaks are at? 6bb/100 at FR but BE at SH. I have HM2/PT3. How many hands do you guys need?

Go to Reports>Position and take a screengrab so we can see your pre-flop (mainly VPIP/PFR/3bet) and post-flop (c-bet, aggression, river call efficiency etc) stats.

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12-03-2011 , 07:52 PM

#2604

ArtySmokes

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Originally Posted by jamie814340

Hey guys, Currently beating 2nl. Just wanted a heads up on how im going, any input would be great thanks. I know its not a huge sample but any points to improve my game would be awsome!

Looks like you had a big suckout on about hand 300 and then continued to win most of your flips, so you could well be a losing player if your luck changes.
Post position stats when your sample size is a bit larger.

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12-03-2011 , 09:22 PM

#2605

omnimirage

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,280

I made a lot of screen shots, really want to pin point some of my leaks. I'm running 26bb/100 at FR over 12 k hands since my last "poker enlightenment" Life time, 7bb/100 at FR over 48k hands and .1bb/100 over 77k hands at SH. All those screen shots are for SH btw, the game I'm trying to get good at. I'm not sure if my style just works better for FR, or whether I tend to play tighter as I'm playing more tables, I think it's a bit of both.

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12-03-2011 , 11:37 PM

#2606

ArtySmokes

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My, what a lot of screengrabs!
I don't play 6max, so I'll defer to the specialists on that one.
Actually, there's so much info here that I don't really know where to start. Oh, it seems you've only played 181 hands of full ring, so that can pretty much be ignored.
So you're exactly breaking even (post-rake) at 6max.
VPIP: 28.9 PFR: 25.5 3bet: 9
Looks OK to me.
Positional stats (2nd image) look fine too, but I'd prefer to let Fab or someone else look for obvious problems.

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12-04-2011 , 02:21 AM

#2607

omnimirage

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,280

Ya, desperate for some advice =/

I haven't played FR in so long that my game would be radically different now, so omitted it + didn't want to kill people with so much screen shots

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12-04-2011 , 04:58 AM

#2608

fabadam

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pat3392: I can't see what stakes these are, but it looks to me like you are very loose-aggressive preflop and also super-aggressive postflop. One of your screens shows you are losing a ton of money in multiway pots, and when you have a raiser in front of you (you 3-bet a real lot too).
I can't be definitive, but this seems to indicate you are trying to win too many pots, rather than give up if you miss. You can analyse for yourself whether you think that's right.
In that case, tighten up preflop when you are not opening or iso-raising a player, and tighten up postflop when you miss multiway hands.

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12-08-2011 , 09:20 AM

#2609

Kaldarion87

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Hello everyone!

Long time reader, first time poster. I've been battling the hamburger-stakes for too long and I've decided to get some support from this great comminuty to point out some leaks in my game.

I am a break-even player over a 19K sample playing @4NL on Everleaf.

This first image is my overall stats:

The second one is my posistional play:

The third one is my preflop-activty:

And lastly, like I said, a break even graph over 19K hands:

All tips and advices are appreciated.

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12-08-2011 , 09:25 PM

#2610

jamie814340

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Hey guys, just an update on my stats. Currently playing 6 max and having a little bit of trouble. Any help would be awsome! thanks guys
Jamie

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12-08-2011 , 10:43 PM

#2611

jamie814340

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Originally Posted by jamie814340

Hey guys, just an update on my stats. Currently playing 6 max and having a little bit of trouble. Any help would be awsome! thanks guys
Jamie

Also guys, should i switch to 9 max especially if i want to play of a more of a nit approach?

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12-09-2011 , 06:23 AM

#2612

fabadam

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Kaldarion87: It looks like you are mostly playing 6-handed and less. For those stakes, you are a bit too tight. Especially in the late positions (cutoff and button). Less than 20% VPIP on the button really can never be right. You should be iso-raising and stealing a truckload in those positions.
Postflop you are aggressive, but it looks like you are also playing weak-tight. Your W$WSF% is much too low for someone who is so tight preflop. Remember that you will usually have the best hand.
Finally, it looks like you open-limp some hands. Don't do that. When first in, raise or fold.

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12-09-2011 , 06:26 AM

#2613

fabadam

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jamie: That's less than 5k hands, but one thing really stands out: you are not at all position aware. You are playing way too loose from early position and way too tight in late position. Read some of the stickies of the microNL or SSNL forums to get some idea of preflop ranges in every position.

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12-11-2011 , 12:34 PM

#2614

Neuroscience

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 121

What can I read on to improve my $2.50/180 play? I feel as though I could better myself but am unsure of where to start.

Thanks

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12-12-2011 , 03:43 PM

#2615

fabadam

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neuroscience: go to the MTT strategy forum, look at the stickies. I recall there's a classic post by Shaundeeb about strategy in 180s, but I don't have it bookmarked.

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12-14-2011 , 12:33 PM

#2616

ltensail

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 174

Take a look at my AKs negative winrate

Always barreled off stack with AKs and calling 3bet shove for a flip and miss.

At 14k hands, I made an adjustment to cbetting OOP.
18k hands, I thought the redline was going to go positive.
....damn............

I would like to know which stats is a good indicator I can move on to NL5.
When i am winning 10bb/100?

Planning to move to NL5 when I hit 200 BR.

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12-14-2011 , 05:47 PM

#2617

Mr Beer

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Originally Posted by ltensail

Take a look at my AKs negative winrate

Always barreled off stack with AKs and calling 3bet shove for a flip and miss.

My suggestion is don't do that at 2NL, at least not against the multitabling nits and regs. Usually the best you can expect is they stack off with QQ+/AK, which is ahead of AK (58/42). Remove QQ or AK from that range - and plenty do - and you are crushed. Save stacking off with AKs for the aggrofish and include AK for that purpose.

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12-15-2011 , 03:06 AM

#2618

fabadam

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ltensail: preflop position awareness looks OK. For the rest there is very little to say, since you aren't showing any postflop stats really, except the not very useful WTSD/W$SD. Your W$WSF is high, so it looks like you are probably good aggressive postflop.

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12-15-2011 , 05:09 AM

#2619

ltensail

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How about when to move upstake? Or its just solely based on my comfort and confidence level?

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12-15-2011 , 04:16 PM

#2620

fabadam

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Originally Posted by ltensail

How about when to move upstake? Or its just solely based on my comfort and confidence level?

That, and your bankroll.
Have a bankroll strategy. This CardRunners Stairs schema is a good one, that lets you reward yourself with cashouts. If you don't care about the cashouts don't do them. You can also set different levels of BIs to move up/down, though I would recommend against ever playing with less than 20 BIs.

In the sample you gave you had a good winrate. Maybe that's skill, maybe it's rungood (partly). Move up and you'll find out. If you get a bit of runbad move down again.

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12-16-2011 , 02:22 AM

#2621

ProfesorKaos

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whats the typical winrate in EP?

mine is like 1b/100 over ~90k hands

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12-18-2011 , 03:08 PM

#2622

sketosomania

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Hello Ive been playing 6max 2NL and doing pretty well but still i want to find out my leaks.one major leak i feel is that i play too passive sometimes.I prefer check calling than bet bet n bet and often do this.Plz guide me a little.Also my check raise is high which I mainly do when villain cbets and i feel its a bluff

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12-18-2011 , 03:22 PM

#2623

sketosomania

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12-18-2011 , 04:25 PM

#2624

fabadam

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sketsomania:
I see two main leaks, and they are related
(1) Preflop you are nowhere near position aware enough. You can fix this almost completely just by stealing more in cutoff and button. Your UO PFR numbers are just way too low there. Make it something like 30% in CO and 50% on the button.
(2) You are too passive postflop, with less than 30% flop aggression, which means you're not value betting the best hand often. This is also because you are out of position relatively often (because of your preflop play). Cbet% on the flop should tend towards 70% id you make sure you in position most of the time.

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12-19-2011 , 02:48 AM

#2625

sketosomania

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Hey..what is UO PFR i am unable to find out and what should be my opening range on the BTN and cutoff and also 3bet range on the BTN and cutoff.Should I bluff 3 bet steal and cbet when a check comes?

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