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Old 11-20-2011, 03:12 AM   #2551
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

10k I dk for nl2. here are my stats for the last 4k @ JUST nl 2


here is preflop positional for that 4k
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:58 AM   #2552
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Doesn't make sense. If you lose at 48BB/100 (Big Bets not big Blinds) you still only lose $83.04 over 4325 hands at 2NL.

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That aside, your positional sense is poor. You need to stop limping ever in EP and probably cut down the hands you raise there. MP, just don't play the hands you limp unless you overlimp with pocket pairs. CO and button, just raise every hand instead of limping. NOTE: this is very rough advice, I don't play 6-max but you need to stop open limping ever, cut down overlimping a LOT and replace these plays with raising or folding. You need to tighten up in EP and be more aggressive in CO/BTN to abuse position and steal blinds.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:04 AM   #2553
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how much is 48 bb ??
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:06 AM   #2554
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At 2NL, one bb (big blind) is 2 cents. So 48bb = 96 cents. A Big Bet is 2x a bb and is a leftover term from Limit Holdem if I remember correctly.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:09 AM   #2555
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Really, if you are getting hammered this badly at 2NL, I suggest you re-set your game completely.

Read this, nit it up for a few K hands and consider switching to full ring.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...micros-430637/
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:09 AM   #2556
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maybe I should start using my hem for stats
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:44 AM   #2557
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I been studying alot lately. I just got to keep it simple. Cut down on the # of table and post hh on here. 3bb/100 is my goal
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:06 AM   #2558
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

quicksilver: I don't know what that software is, but it looks a lot worse then Holdem Manager or PokerTracker. It's also hard to interpret these stats since it's not quite clear what they mean.
FOr example, the bet + raise + call + fold + check add up to way more than 100%. I don't understand them

Anyway, it looks like MR Beer's analysis is spot on: you are just way too much of a calling station, just calling down good hands (your W$SD% is very high) and folding somewhere along the way else.

Follow Mr Beer's advice, read that link he posted and start playing really tight, really aggressive.
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Old 11-27-2011, 03:46 AM   #2559
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

I feel like a huge noob for asking this, but does anyone know how to add 3bet frequency to the HUD on PT3?

1 more dumb question. I have tried to install Hold Em Manager and when I try to log in, it says I have some problem with my eql server or something. Suggestions?
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:59 AM   #2560
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I have tried to install Hold Em Manager and when I try to log in, it says I have some problem with my eql server or something. Suggestions?
Both PT3 and HEM use the same database manager called postgresql. If it is already installed (eg, by PT3) then HEM won't know the login information for it, and won't set up a new database on it (this is a bit stupid, imo, because they could at least guess at PT3's default login and make it easier for potential customers to migrate, but for some reason they couldn't be bothered...)

Here's a short thread that explains what to do.

And here's another thread that has more detail and alternatives if that doesn't work.

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Old 11-27-2011, 05:24 PM   #2561
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HellO!

This is my nl5 stats, what can I do better?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/statsgw
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I dont know how to insert picture, if some1 wanna help pm

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Old 11-27-2011, 05:27 PM   #2562
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Link doesn't work. Post the direct link to the .jpg by hitting the "mountains" icon to add the image URL.
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:33 PM   #2563
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Link doesn't work. Post the direct link to the .jpg by hitting the "mountains" icon to add the image URL.

[IMG]http://imageshack.us/f/710/statsgw******[/IMG]


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Old 11-27-2011, 06:37 PM   #2564
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Stats look pretty solid to me. Only issue seems to be with early position, where you're going to showdown a little too often and losing. I'd guess that you're getting trapped by sets when you opened with a big pair that you can't let go of, but it could just be standard variance.
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Old 11-27-2011, 07:14 PM   #2565
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canon1: From the looks of it, you're being over-aggressive in a number of spots. Your 3bet% is quite ridiculous in comparison with the rest of the stats; it might even be OK, but to me it looks like you're being too wild there.
Most improtant leak seems to be river play. You are very aggressive all the way, except on the river, where you are not aggressive at all. You manage to match this with a really bad River Call Efficiency. That indicates you are doing something (probably several somethings) completely wrong there.
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:07 PM   #2566
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

Hey as you can see im struggling at 2nl. any advice will be helpful thanks



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Old 11-28-2011, 04:39 AM   #2567
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

Icemaddog:
Your preflop stats look OK for a very tight-aggressive player.
For the rest, I think you are not being aggressive enough postflop. You are very tight pre. This means you should be ahead of villain's range on most flops. Yet I see you betting/raising the flop less than 30% of the time. So you must be check-folding a lot of flops you miss. That's probably too nitty. Be more aggressive, betting when you are ahead of their range.
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Old 11-28-2011, 03:08 PM   #2568
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Here are my stats for 6max 2NL 6-8 tabling.Kindly help me out .Thank you!

Hands 10290
bb/100 1.18
Vpip 20.4
PFR 14.5
3bet 2.4
WTSD%27.2
W$sd% 54.8
Agg 2.16
Agg% 24.9

vs 3bet Call% 32.2
4 bet range 1.0
Sqp 1.5
F Agg 24.9
T Agg 22.3
R Agg 25.0
Flop C bet % 48.1
Flop Cbet success 48.3
Turn Cbet 61.9

Fold flop Vs C bet 59.6
Flop vs Raise fold% 35.1
Steat Pct 30.3
Early UO PFR 13.9
Middle UO PFR 14.9
Cutoff PFR 21.0
Button PFR 36.5
SB UO PFR 39.9
Preflop positional awareness 2.63
River call efficiency 1.11
BB fold to steal 82.6
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Old 11-28-2011, 03:46 PM   #2569
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:34 PM   #2570
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sketsomania: your picture kind of hard to read. Basic points that can be noted:
(1) Preflop is fairly OK. Probably too loose/spewey in SB. Just play tight there, and don't steal so light.
(2) Postflop you are definitely not aggressive enough. Agg% frequencies way under 30% means you are just way too passive.
(3) You have a high W$SD% and yet a really bad River Call Efficiency. Youre; just not reading hands well enough, and playing too passive to make it worse.

I'd say drop a few tables and start working on learning poker, rather than just trying to grind as many hands as fast as you can.
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:26 PM   #2571
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yeah i think im too check folding too much also. whats your best target for cbetting?
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:51 AM   #2572
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yeah i think im too check folding too much also. whats your best target for cbetting?
That's very dependent on table conditions. Normal c-bet percentages are usually between 60-75% or so (check out the HEM tutorials, they used to have a lot of this stuff).
Also, it isn't about having a target percentage, but more about making the right decisions leading to a certain percentage. If you're outside that range, it usually means something's wrong.

For c-betting: there is some good material in the SSNL stickies. Quite old but still applicable. It really is about basic things like
(1) When heads-up on the flop in position, you c-bet pretty much your entire range. Let's say you raise AKo (of AT0 or 98s) preflop on the button, get one call from a tight player in the BB. Flop is Q63r. c-bet this always, your entire range. It's quite tough for your opponent to call now with a small PP.
(2) Oout of position heads-up, be more careful. Flops like JT6dd hit opponent's range pretty hard, might be best to just check-fold now.
(3) Mutli-way, be more careful because it's harder to get everyone to fold.
(4) Use the board texture to your advantage. If you raise 76s from the CO pre, and the flop is A82, always bet, because they will "put you on AK" a lot and fold.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:07 AM   #2573
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alright ill have a read up on that now thanks for the help appreciate it
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:42 PM   #2574
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canon1: From the looks of it, you're being over-aggressive in a number of spots. Your 3bet% is quite ridiculous in comparison with the rest of the stats; it might even be OK, but to me it looks like you're being too wild there.
Most improtant leak seems to be river play. You are very aggressive all the way, except on the river, where you are not aggressive at all. You manage to match this with a really bad River Call Efficiency. That indicates you are doing something (probably several somethings) completely wrong there.
so what I can do is 3bet a little bit less? what does the "river call efficiency"? means? when i check the "river efficity net$" it is on +XX$ is that bad?
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:57 PM   #2575
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hi, here are my stats for the past 9k hands

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Positional stats:


Positional stats for last 6k hands (downswing)


thanks for any input
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