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Nuances of Deep Stack Play (250+bb's) Nuances of Deep Stack Play (250+bb's)

10-22-2014 , 09:14 PM
If someone could just touch on this subject briefly, I would appreciate it.

What are the chief ways in which we are adjusting our postflop play and our hand selection when we are deep stacked? IIRC, from previous study, things like suited aces, suited connectors, and implied odds situations win the day in this regard. Are we less confident with big pairs like JJ+ and middle pairs like 55-TT? If not...why not? If so...how come?
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10-22-2014 , 09:58 PM
I, like many others, find a large stack tough to play sometimes. It's very easy to get careless with it. I would say in general I feel more confident with big pairs and mid range pairs. However, it all depends on who is in on the pot in my big stack play.

When I am big stacked I am very cautious about who I get tangled up with. When other deep stacked players are in on a pot you might want to be more cautious and stay away. I try to pick my battles a little more carefully and apply pressure when it counts on pots that involve smaller stacks who will feel it more.

I think I answered your question?
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10-22-2014 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kt2210
I, like many others, find a large stack tough to play sometimes. It's very easy to get careless with it. I would say in general I feel more confident with big pairs and mid range pairs. However, it all depends on who is in on the pot in my big stack play.

When I am big stacked I am very cautious about who I get tangled up with. When other deep stacked players are in on a pot you might want to be more cautious and stay away. I try to pick my battles a little more carefully and apply pressure when it counts on pots that involve smaller stacks who will feel it more.

I think I answered your question?
You did and this has been how I've handled it and how I've felt instinctively in these deep stacked spots myself. Here in the nanostakes, I'm finding myself deep stacked often. I, too get cautious about getting tangled with other players who are a few + buyins deep. Still, if we get into a situation with KK and AA preflop, we're not folding 275bb's, are we?
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10-22-2014 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
You did and this has been how I've handled it and how I've felt instinctively in these deep stacked spots myself. Here in the nanostakes, I'm finding myself deep stacked often. I, too get cautious about getting tangled with other players who are a few + buyins deep. Still, if we get into a situation with KK and AA preflop, we're not folding 275bb's, are we?
No, I definitely wouldn't be folding in that situation pre-flop, because you still have great win % with those hands pre-flop. However, you will have to do some solid analysis on each street afterwards to see where you stand against the other guy. Especially if it is a deep stacked player who could cause you to commit all of your money.

One thing you shouldn't do it make your bet sizes more cautious than they normally would be with the same hand and a smaller stack. You are still putting out a bet to determine the range the other player has so it must be significant enough to get some information from the guy on what he's holding. If it's too small you gain no information and become more pot committed in the dark.

My biggest weakness when I'm big stacked is practicing what I preach and staying FOCUSED. I know how to play the big stack and I know I should be cautious of who I get in with. But it's so easy to stray from that focus... and all it takes is a few big hands of losing focus and you go from deep stacked to bust.
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10-22-2014 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kt2210
You are still putting out a bet to determine the range the other player has so it must be significant enough to get some information from the guy on what he's holding. If it's too small you gain no information and become more pot committed in the dark.
That should not be why we bet and it should not influence our sizing.
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10-22-2014 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer
That should not be why we bet and it should not influence our sizing.
You know, I'm glad you picked at this because even I knew it was a problem when I read it.

We bet to make better hands fold or weaker hands call. It's either for a bluff or for value. It's not a probe for information, whilst inflating the pot.
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10-22-2014 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
You know, I'm glad you picked at this because even I knew it was a problem when I read it.

We bet to make better hands fold or weaker hands call. It's either for a bluff or for value. It's not a probe for information, whilst inflating the pot.
Agreed, value and bluff. There is also to pick up dead money and as a semi-bluff. But in every case information is a possible benefit of the bet, not the purpose.
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