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Old 05-30-2009, 11:32 AM   #1
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NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

ok, im kinda bored right now and have nothing to do (except exam revision ). i could be playing mid stakes on full tilt but the games arent very good atm (4pm UK time, 11am EST) and i want to do something relaxing. so im going to try an experiment on pokerstars....

i have $383 randomly left on there. instead of playing ridiculously underolled, i am going to give something back to twoplustwo beginner forum by attempting to grind it up starting from NL10. i have zero experience of NL10 and very minimal experience of NL25 (i switched to cash at NL50), so it should be quite challenging, and i want to see if i can highlight the differences i find at the various levels as i move up, using specific hands to demonstrate.

im not going to use this as a blog or anything like that so i hope it doesnt get locked.

i wouldnt be playing anything above NL100 if it wasnt for twoplustwo (im currently playing NL400 on full tilt), so i feel like i owe the community something. with a bit of luck i can post some strategy in the near future that will help a lot of micro stakes grinders improve their games and move up.

the plan:

* use proper bankroll management - at least 20 buy ins for each level
* move from NL10 to NL200 asap on pokerstars (i.e. get from $383 to $4000)
* play at least 10,000 hands at each level
* i will be playing roughly 6 tables at a time on average.
* im gonna play mostly UK day time.
* post some strategy on here now and again relating to good spots i get myself into (im purposely going to play kinda laggy so i can get into some good spots with regs)

and so the experiement begins...

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Old 05-30-2009, 11:34 AM   #2
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

hint for micros: shrink bluffing range (to zero?), expand value range. watch money accrue.
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Old 05-30-2009, 11:58 AM   #3
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

sounds awesome jack.. like to see what kind of winrates a 200/400nl reg player has to have some comparison... also will be watching to see the time frame it takes to get from point A to 4k gl and thanks for doing this
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Old 05-30-2009, 12:01 PM   #4
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Old 05-30-2009, 12:03 PM   #5
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whore it up!! lol
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Old 05-30-2009, 12:03 PM   #6
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

tips for beating 10NL-50NL- range merging, game theory, advanced psychology, combinatorics and tilt control

tips for beating 200NL- isolate fish, value bet them, dont bluff
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Old 05-30-2009, 12:22 PM   #7
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

i must say what you are doing almost certainly cant be labeled an experiment ....as you have no hypothesis that is being tested.

DUCY?


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Old 05-30-2009, 12:33 PM   #8
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

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hint for micros: shrink bluffing range (to zero?), expand value range. watch money accrue.
/thread lol


idk if i could even do this now, i would get super bored playing std hands vs stations all day. gl


btw if bad games are stopping you playing, just drop down to whatever limits where you can beat the daytime games.
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:11 PM   #9
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

I'm gonna keep tabs on this thread just to keep looking at that picture...
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:45 PM   #10
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

dont understand why im being flamed tbh. its not like im trying to make a brag here or anything, im just trying to offer something back to the forums. i know lots of people here play NL10, and i think it might be useful to some of them. especially if i can offer something more conventional than "dont bluff ever"

if its not useful to you, then fine, but why spam a thread that some people might find helpful??
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:49 PM   #11
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dont understand why im being flamed tbh. its not like im trying to make a brag here or anything, im just trying to offer something back to the forums. i know lots of people here play NL10, and i think it might be useful to some of them. especially if i can offer something more conventional than "dont bluff ever"

if its not useful to you, then fine, but why spam a thread that some people might find helpful??
gl mate, i'm defintely gonna be checkin this thread over time. I'm having a few problems at the minute trying to crush 10NL.
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:53 PM   #12
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

This is a great idea, ignore Bichibee.

Thanks for taking the time to do this, ill be very interested to see what happens.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:03 PM   #13
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Following also, personally think this will be helpful.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:08 PM   #14
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

I'm going to be following this too, I think this is an amazing idea... ignore the haters man, thanks for taking the time to do this
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:26 PM   #15
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

Good thread idea. F teh haters
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:29 PM   #16
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

The idea is to do this first then post; posting first is just stroking your own ego; lol at you being a midstakes reg btw .
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:33 PM   #17
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

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dont understand why im being flamed tbh. its not like im trying to make a brag here or anything, im just trying to offer something back to the forums. i know lots of people here play NL10, and i think it might be useful to some of them. especially if i can offer something more conventional than "dont bluff ever"

if its not useful to you, then fine, but why spam a thread that some people might find helpful??
I concur. GL jack with your mission, I will be following.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:36 PM   #18
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The idea is to do this first then post; posting first is just stroking your own ego; lol at you being a midstakes reg btw .
i have technically done it already from NL50-NL400, and the point is that i cant remember much/ any of the game play at <100. if i did it before i started i would a) be less motivated. b) forgotten some of the stuff i found. i dont even know if i will be able to do it or offer useful advice - that would certainly look ridiculous if im supposedly doing this for 'ego'.

and 2/4 is my regular game, so how is that not midstakes lol. i just apologise for being a student and not having put in a gazillion hands at the level yet
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:39 PM   #19
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

calling your self a midstakes reg when you've put in less then 50K hands at 200nl+ with your winrate is delusional.

You should atleast put in some hands before you start; all I see is you're going to play 2k hands at 10nl then say f it; doing this purely for attention.
Meh, I'll stay out of your thread.
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Old 05-30-2009, 04:19 PM   #20
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

do you guys have epic battles midstakes bitchibee and jack?

How would you know his winrate? Just curious lol sounds like theres a history here

anyways gl jack ill be followin your blog
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Old 05-30-2009, 05:02 PM   #21
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

Ill be following ur little mission too..just curious, are u intending to show a few hands now and again or how are u intending to show us things uve noticed abt each level? any videos planned? would be helpful to see a 2/4 player plays in tough spots!
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Old 05-30-2009, 05:17 PM   #22
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do you guys have epic battles midstakes bitchibee and jack?

How would you know his winrate? Just curious lol sounds like theres a history here

anyways gl jack ill be followin your blog
me and bitchibee have never had any battles lol, we have just disagreed in our comments in various threads. i can kinda see where he is coming from with what he is saying but i think its a bit unnecessary. i think i just annoy him tbh, but ah well.
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Old 05-30-2009, 05:33 PM   #23
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Re: NL10 to NL200 experiment - finding a way to beat each limit

i'll be following too. currently beating 10nl for 10 BB/100 and looking to move up to 25nl soon so this thread will be usefull for me.

cheers
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Old 05-30-2009, 05:36 PM   #24
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I will be following. Any chance you want to give out your SN for sweat purposes? Or better yet, run teamviewer? That would be sweet.
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Old 05-30-2009, 05:40 PM   #25
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I will be following. Any chance you want to give out your SN for sweat purposes? Or better yet, run teamviewer? That would be sweet.
if he posted his sn here think of all the little 2p2'ers wanting to try and get a little famous and sit at his table just to try and felt him so they could come back to this thread and brag about it. I bet also whichever table he was at he would have a 7+ waiting list lol.
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