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JhJd on 364h 9s board vs All In, what do you do? JhJd on 364h 9s board vs All In, what do you do?

08-25-2020 , 09:02 AM
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3 : http://www.holdemmanager.com

BTN: $2.62 (131 bb)
Hero (SB): $6.51 (325.5 bb)
BB: $1.92 (96 bb)
UTG: $2.90 (145 bb)
MP: $2.00 (100 bb)
CO: $3.02 (151 bb)

Hero posts SB $0.01,
BB posts $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Jh Jd
2 folds,
CO raises to $0.07,
BTN calls $0.07,
Hero raises to $0.18,
fold,
CO calls $0.11,
BTN calls $0.11

Flop: ($0.56, 3 players) 3h 6h 4h
Hero bets $0.27,
fold,
BTN calls $0.27

Turn: ($1.10, 2 players) 9s
Hero bets $0.30,
BTN raises to $2.17 and is all-in,


I'm really not sure how best to play this had. I think my betting was ok, I've got an over pair but the board is a bit scary so wanted to keep it manageable hoping to get called by overcards and draws. I'll post the outcome in a few days.

Thoughts?
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08-25-2020 , 10:08 AM
Any reads on villian? What type of player is he? I'm simlifying this but if he's a solid TAG I'd be leaning towards a fold if he is a LAG fish there's still so much you would be beating so I'd be calling.

All in all it seems to me you played it ok apart from maybe larger bets post flop.

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08-25-2020 , 10:09 AM
What is your turn bet hoping to achieve, and what is your plan on the river if called? There's next to nothing in a reasonable villain range that you beat except for precisely draws, and you've bet so small you've given them the odds to do so.
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08-25-2020 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
What is your turn bet hoping to achieve, and what is your plan on the river if called? There's next to nothing in a reasonable villain range that you beat except for precisely draws, and you've bet so small you've given them the odds to do so.
That's true but once again we need to know the opponent type

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08-25-2020 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerchrisuk
Any reads on villian?
Nope, this was zoom so hadn't played any hands with him at all. All I had to go on was that he was a 2NL microstakes zoom player and the way he played the hand so far.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixfour
What is your turn bet hoping to achieve, and what is your plan on the river if called?
I'm going for value against draws and pairs, to manage the pot in case I am against a made flush and to avoid villain x/r in response to perceived weakness on my part*. If he'd just called my turn bet I probably would have bet a similar size on the river.

*I do think this might be a bit of leak of mine to be honest, it feels like I'm just asking to be raised big if I check but I don't know if that's how it really pans out.
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08-26-2020 , 02:53 AM
I don't play zoom but do play micros. In my limited experience, that overbet means V has it most of the time.
His action is saying he already has a flush, I would believe him unless I had a read that said different.
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08-26-2020 , 05:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kb5zcr
In my limited experience, that overbet means V has it most of the time.
Normally I'd agree but what puts doubt in my mind was the fact that it came on the turn rather than the flop. My experience is limited too but from what I've seen if they're going to shove they shove as soon as they hit so that was enough to make me not insta-fold. I don't know whether, on average, that really makes a difference though.
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08-26-2020 , 07:18 AM
The turn shove is an overbet, but only technically.

A potsized raise would be to $2, leaving himself $0.17 behind. That wouldn’t make any sense.

When you 3bet pre and put in 1/2 pot on the flop, there’s a good chance any turn raise is going to be all-in. Even with 130BB stacks and your 1/4 pot bet on the turn. At that point, villains options are basically to raise small and leave 1/3 pot behind for the river or ship it.

Shoving over the flop bet would be a pretty big overbet though, so you can’t really compare the two situations.

Giving BTN a range without any additional information is almost impossible. But one thing we can be pretty sure about: he calls your 3bet with (almost) everything that he cold called vs. CO because he’s getting better than 4:1. If you don’t want to play that hand 3way OOP, you have to raise larger preflop.
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08-26-2020 , 07:34 AM
I’m really surprised that no one has said this yet, but pre is really bad sizing wise. The 3bet should be 2 times as big IMO. We’re OOP and there’s a cold caller. We really don’t want to give hands like small PP’s or weak suited Aces odds this good to realize their equity.
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