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Old 02-08-2012, 05:12 PM   #1
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my first HH post. SB vs BB

Hey people. So ide thought ide get on the whole posting hands and replying to HH. With this one its a pretty standard SB vs BB.

The villain was playing very aggressive and raising buttons/blinds continuously.

My train of thought initially was keep the pot low and see a flop with a 'reasonable' hand. Once I hit the 6 i wasn't going anywhere but didnt want to inflate the pot. I was hoping for him to bluff the turn. So when he checked to me, i decided to bet and take the pot down, however i wasn't expecting the check raise, maybe he thought i was bluffing or had nothing? so i called, once he shoved the river i was either miles ahead or miles behind..i opted for the latter. But not entirely sure. nice to hear it from you guys!

    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11823382

    SB: $11.61 (116.1 bb)
    Hero (BB): $9.69 (96.9 bb)
    MP: $7.04 (70.4 bb)
    CO: $11.77 (117.7 bb)
    BTN: $10.96 (109.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 A
    3 folds, SB raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.30

    Flop: ($0.80) 4 6 3 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.57, Hero calls $0.57

    Turn: ($1.94) 3 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.50

    River: ($6.94) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $8.14 and is all-in, Hero folds

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    Old 02-08-2012, 05:37 PM   #2
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    Re: my first HH post. SB vs BB

    I agree with your initial decision to keep the pot small. I probably would have checked the turn and reevaluated on the river. By betting the $1, the pot blew up too quick for a hand that you really don't want to play a big pot with. If I had bet the $1 and he re-raised like that, I would have just gotten rid of the hand.
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    Old 02-08-2012, 05:47 PM   #3
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    Re: my first HH post. SB vs BB

    yeah thats exactly what i thought about when I first reviewed it over, good to hear from someone else though
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    Old 02-09-2012, 03:25 AM   #4
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    Try not to fall into the trap of being results oriented in review. The turn bet is fine. I'd bet slightly bigger for value.

    When he raises you, go through everything you know about the guy and re-evaluate. If I'm calling the turn I'm probably not folding that river since it's a brick and his line is consistent with his draws and air.

    In general, if I know nothing about the guy, I'd fold turn.
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    Old 02-09-2012, 03:38 AM   #5
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    Re: my first HH post. SB vs BB

    u described his aggression preflop, but not postflop. What's his vpip/pfr/AF/steal %? Have u seen him c/r b4? how often? how many hands do u have on him?

    probably I'm folding ott. Also, post HHs like these in uNL and read the stickies.
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    Old 02-09-2012, 04:15 AM   #6
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    Re: my first HH post. SB vs BB

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    Try not to fall into the trap of being results oriented in review. The turn bet is fine. I'd bet slightly bigger for value.

    When he raises you, go through everything you know about the guy and re-evaluate. If I'm calling the turn I'm probably not folding that river since it's a brick and his line is consistent with his draws and air.

    In general, if I know nothing about the guy, I'd fold turn.
    I strongly disagree if villain is as aggro as OP says he is. Also, betting without a plan(like here on the turn) leads to what hero did on the turn: calling while essentially lost as to what your villain's range is, and settling on the fact that it's bvb so he must be light.

    That said, a B/F here on the turn isn't TERRIBLE, but I think

    1) it's wishful thinking
    2) we need a few thousand hands on him to get the read we need to make this decision.

    in conclusion, ck back turn, as played, fold turn.
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    Old 02-09-2012, 04:34 AM   #7
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    Re: my first HH post. SB vs BB

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    I strongly disagree if villain is as aggro as OP says he is. Also, betting without a plan(like here on the turn) leads to what hero did on the turn: calling while essentially lost as to what your villain's range is, and settling on the fact that it's bvb so he must be light.

    That said, a B/F here on the turn isn't TERRIBLE, but I think

    1) it's wishful thinking
    2) we need a few thousand hands on him to get the read we need to make this decision.

    in conclusion, ck back turn, as played, fold turn.
    that's nothing to say about postflop play. check back if you think that there's more value in bluff catching river than there is in valuebetting turn. if he's really aggressive, bet/call turn and call river or bet/shove turn. don't say that you don't have a plan. i can think of tonnes of plans after betting.
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    Old 02-09-2012, 05:22 AM   #8
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    Re: my first HH post. SB vs BB

    to annoy that rainbow sheep guy - OP turn on auto top up/buyin full.
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    Old 02-09-2012, 05:51 AM   #9
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    Re: my first HH post. SB vs BB

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    to annoy that rainbow sheep guy - OP turn on auto top up/buyin full.
    +1 LOL!

    Call pre is fine, although I think we're more hoping to hit our Ace ip and for him to become passive, than the 6 and get stuck in a raising war here.

    Villain may be aggressive, but that's not to say he doesn'e have a strong hand this time. Don't fall into the misconception that he will only have s**t because he raises all the time, sometimes he does have the goods!

    As played, flop call is ok. I would check back turn as we are ip and do not need to make a big pot with a weak one pair hand. We want to get to showdown cheap with one pair hands pretty much always, without reads.

    Villain's line is strange imo, unless he has a boat on turn, but given his aggression and our one pair I'm folding to his rr, and def folding river to his shove.

    If villain is this LAG all the time this is great for us ip against him, but wait for a better hand and just call it down then shove the river. Just be patient and wait for that good hand to stack him with. This is not it tho imo

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    Old 02-09-2012, 05:53 AM   #10
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    Re: my first HH post. SB vs BB

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    that's nothing to say about postflop play. check back if you think that there's more value in bluff catching river than there is in valuebetting turn. if he's really aggressive, bet/call turn and call river or bet/shove turn. don't say that you don't have a plan. i can think of tonnes of plans after betting.
    I'm sure you can come up with many good plans, but my point was that clearly OP wasn't and really needs to here. That is the most important point to make about this hand, before anything else.
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    Old 02-09-2012, 09:27 AM   #11
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    Re: my first HH post. SB vs BB

    looking back on it all the only thing i did majorly wrong was call the re raise/not call the shove if im calling the re raise. In all fairness i was hoping for him to give up on the river and get to cheap showdown their. I was thinking his re raise was a pure bluff so once i call, he'll figure hes beat and check the river. obviously wrong and looking back not a great plan what so ever. i like checking the turn and calling generally any bet on the river. i lost a bit of money to this guy as he was so aggressive i was lost in what to do a lot of the time.

    I dont like turning auto fill, i just have my stack and keep with it unless it falls under around $4, might not be the right play...i still find i can play with a stack of $5. but is this wrong?

    and i shouldnt be posting hands in this section? is that right?

    thanks for the replies guys!
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    Old 02-09-2012, 09:46 AM   #12
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    Its fine to post hands in BQ.
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    Old 02-09-2012, 10:01 AM   #13
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    Re: my first HH post. SB vs BB

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    I dont like turning auto fill, i just have my stack and keep with it unless it falls under around $4, might not be the right play...i still find i can play with a stack of $5. but is this wrong?
    It's not wrong, but if you think that you have an edge against the other players at the table, you should definitely be topping up your stack to be able to win more when you decide to get it in.

    The deeper the stack, the more post-flop skills will impact the course of the game. If you feel uncomfortable playing with a 100bb stack, you should probably buy in for less, as the decisions you have to make will become easier.

    Also if you are the only short-stack at the table and you have an effective strategy, you could take advantage of the other players as they will be playing a 100bb game against each other, but might not adjust to the fact that you're only sitting with 50bb.
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    Old 02-09-2012, 12:32 PM   #14
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    It's not wrong, but if you think that you have an edge against the other players at the table, you should definitely be topping up your stack to be able to win more when you decide to get it in.
    yeah i do this on rare occasions when i think i have a huge edge over the table/or a certain player but not always.
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    Old 02-09-2012, 02:57 PM   #15
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    What are his VPIP/PFR? How often is he trying to steal from SB? How has he responded to previous 3bets pre? Is his raise size from the SB always 4x? I would raise on the flop. I think he will pay a lot to draw. Probably get it in on the turn since a call means we have to call the river bet and we will have some fold equity to go with our actual equity which is probably decent. On the river you have to call.

    right, off to the results. How exciting!

    ...

    Oh. You folded.
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