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05-09-2017 , 09:38 AM
OP, everyone plays a little different. Assuming you should be favored against other crops of players because you performed well against a previous is a common fallacy for newbies.
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05-11-2017 , 09:53 PM
Ye guess i was just super unlucky. It's quit frustrating to see that my long term all in win-rate (30%) are so low when I have such good hands. Now i usually try to bet less than one third of my total stack preflop


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05-31-2017 , 04:17 AM
Hi, sorry to breakout this old thread but didn't want start a new thread and have to explain the background again. since the last post i had changed my play style and had a great run (3000+ hands about 10buyin profits-could be just a good variance ). Got a couple of questions and hope that you guys can give me some advice
*I try to pick the seat on the left of the most aggressive player(s)?
* ”generally” if an aggressive player raise 3BB+ pre, semi (half the pot) raise again on flop then checks on the turn. Can I interpreted that as the player had a good starting hands but flop didn’t improve his hand and he is trying to bluff on the flop, fails and now hoping I got a weak/nothing as well?
*I still find myself sometimes in a situation where deep down I know I should fold but still calls huge bets hoping for that small chance (less than 15%) that I can make a set. Is there a trick to stop/remind myself to stop digging and minimize my losses.
*as I previously said I’m playing on the smallest table against very aggressive players. so my current style is fairly passive, wait for big hands then c-betting. Should I just stick to the small tables or consider moving to higher stacks once I got enough bankroll. Don’t think my style is suited for higher table
*lastly when i realise i'm tilting how long of a break should i take?

Thanks for any advice
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05-31-2017 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by learnincurve
*I try to pick the seat on the left of the most aggressive player(s)?
This goes against the common wisdom, but try to pick a seat opposite the most aggressive player. So that you can keep your bigblinds. Preferably you want to sit on the left of someone who doesn't enter many pots


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*lastly when i realise i'm tilting how long of a break should i take?
For as long as you need to not let what happened influence your future play.
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05-31-2017 , 08:49 AM
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Preferably you want to sit on the left of someone who doesn't enter many pots
I think I prefer to have loose players on my right and tight players on my left.
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06-01-2017 , 01:17 AM
good aggressive players you do not want on your immediate left. tight players fine.

loose on your right if you are going to play very tight. otherwise you will be playing in lots of pots with them and have to worry each time who after you will mess around with your pot.
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07-18-2017 , 10:37 AM
I have reduce my stats to 19% & 3%.
Thats pretty fishy regardless the stakes you are playing
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07-18-2017 , 01:39 PM
A little late to the party here ... but I don't see any talk of what 'these guys' do when they are 3-bet FP or how they handle post-Flop play. One thing about aggressive players .. they like to be aggressive, but typically don't like it when others take the lead against them.

Obv, aggressive fish/CS don't apply here once the Turn comes out as they are exactly what they see in each hand, thus toss most bluffs out the window.

But based on my own live experience I like to have a 'whale' on my left so I can see what the rest of the table did against their bets and also to take the aggressive lead away from them if I feel the need on 'any' street, which opens up the bluffing opportunities against them especially on the River. There's nothing better than a c/c, c/c and c/r against a whale. Do a couple of those and then toss in a nice Donk River bet bluff and you can have a very nice session in just 3-5 hands!!

Back to OP ... My main point here is if 'everyone' just calls PF then you need to try and steal more often. Even the 'worst' Bingo players don't want to see too many Flops for 'extra' chips. Once the field is reduced (or just take it down) you can feel more comfortable post-Flop against what should be a narrower range. Some will say why narrow their range? Because you can more comfortably handle pot-control and these wacky all-in spots ... It's easier to handle one larger bomb than 5 approaching torpedoes.

It's hard to fold when you know you're going to get paid off, right? But keep telling yourself that you will get just as paid off with less risk by staying out of the set-mining into a 3-bet business ... You are looking to win the war, not every battle. Use your chips smart, much easier to go in under cover than expose your 'weakness' to a full frontal attack. GL
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