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Old 06-16-2012, 03:32 PM   #1
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Hi to all, I need some advice or some considerations. I play NL25

For a month and a half I played 4 tables and I had 2-3bb/100, so I thought to make more money to play 6 tables for a month and I still had 2-3bb/100 (I dont know exactly, I dont have a tracker, the room doesnt have HHs....). but in the last 15k hands I lost 18 stacks cause a badrun.

my concern is not in the 18 stacks (It's standard I think, right??), but maybe I missed edge and I maybe don't realize it: decisions with less time, less observation of opponents at the table, less time for a difficult decision on a big pot, and so on ...

What do you think?

I underlyne that the room was very sick, that doesn't have time bank (and time is short), I't possible sometimes to confuse the seeds of cards if you're not very careful, sometimes slow because software is not perfect, does not have a favorite place, etc. and in fact 6 tables is the maximum that is allowed ...(but It's FISHY, so I prefer to play here If u ask me lol)

Is it possible to loose a lot of edge from 4x to 6x and doesnt realize it?? (I have no tracker 4 hand review)

thanks AAAA
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:38 PM   #2
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Re: Loosing edge cause the tabling? I need an advice

change to 4 colour deck then the seeds will be more apparent. Which site is it you are on? why not stay at 4 tables if you were winning already there.
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:51 PM   #3
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change to 4 colour deck then the seeds will be more apparent. Which site is it you are on? why not stay at 4 tables if you were winning already there.
Its an italian site, I'm italian...sick, little "comfort"...Its not possible to change 4 colour deck

I dont stay at 4 tables cause I wanted to increase my hourly rate sir (+50% right? rake back and pure profit...)
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:33 PM   #4
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Re: Loosing edge cause the tabling? I need an advice

I make some calculations...considering the rakeback:

1bb/100 (6x) = 2.9bb/100 (4x)
2bb/100 (6x) = 4.4bb/100 (4x)
3bb/100 (6x) = 6bb/100 (4x)

It smells like - considering money - 6x >>> 4x (cause of these calculations I leave the 4 tables to go to 6 tables..)

but....



I'm only result oriented? or I lost edge?
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:01 PM   #5
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Re: Loosing edge cause the tabling? I need an advice

I played 35-40k hh 4x (2-3bb) and 35-40k hh 6x (2-3bb).... + 15k hh of downswing (-18 stack)
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:53 PM   #6
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Re: Loosing edge cause the tabling? I need an advice

adding more tables can deffs impact the way you play and yes, it can easily cost you a large number of buy ins. if you are going to move up tables i recommend you do it one at a time and add a little more cushion to your bankroll

also your site seems like crap, might be time for a switch.
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:21 PM   #7
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Re: Loosing edge cause the tabling? I need an advice

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adding more tables can deffs impact the way you play and yes, it can easily cost you a large number of buy ins.
so u think it's possible that ingame I have a perception that my game is not changed but in reality I loooooose various bb/100??

3bb/100 4x is equivalent to 1 only bb/100 6x....
4.4bb/100 4x is eq to 2bb/100 6x...and so on...

I loose so much bb/100???
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:48 PM   #8
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Re: Loosing edge cause the tabling? I need an advice

If you play 6 max... 18BI downswings are not exactly uncommon for anyone with a W/R less than say 6bb/100.

Its also not uncommon for your win rate to drop dramatically as you add tables. I personally can not play cash games profitably when I play 8 tables... yet can do alright with 6 (I could beat the FR games at like 3-4bb/100 - standard tables anyway). 4 is my best level - handy that zoom poker is arround so I can keep my hands/hour up.
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:46 AM   #9
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Re: Loosing edge cause the tabling? I need an advice

Yes I play 5max but my problem is not in the 18 stacks (std) but in the fact that maybe I dont realize that I loose a lot of edge (I havent HEM or PT to control the HH the day after and say "wtf I do here???" and so understand.....)

So I mean if it's possible that in-game I think to play the same poker, but really I play loosing poker? this is my doubt.

btw tnx @ all for your considerations

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Old 06-18-2012, 03:35 AM   #10
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it's possible that in-game I think to play the same poker, but really I play no profitable poker? this is my doubt
I mean if It's possible that I've lost the 3bb/100 of edge
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:56 AM   #11
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swe would not be able to know this without seeing some hand histories. if you cant use ptr or HEM on your site, I presume you can still request HH's by email or something?
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:02 AM   #12
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swe would not be able to know this without seeing some hand histories. if you cant use ptr or HEM on your site, I presume you can still request HH's by email or something?
no, it's sick. btw tnx 4 all replies
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