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Old 06-03-2012, 04:47 PM   #46
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Well after my good run with PLO20 yesterday I went back on the grind. I lost some back last night at PLO4/10 playing a little spewy and not running so well. I was still up nicely on the day so not feeling too bad. Came back today, went up a little. Then stacked off light in a few places and then I started running super ****. Got absolutely stomped Some fish on my left ran **** hot too which didn't help things. It's so crushing to play a game like this. I don't know what to do, my roll goes up with the rakeback and down with the play until I have some hot run. But then I can't seem to maintain it. It really does feel like a waste of time. Maybe I should move to PLO20 and just run hot there and play disciplined. I'm not sure where to go from here. Just need to get some consistent luck.

One of the hands which did work out. I bet flop with overpair + flush draw + backdoor flush draw. I bet turn with 2 flush draws. I didn't think villain was likely to have been drawing to a backdoor nut flush so I called.



I despair at this stuff sometimes. Yes I got a lucky turn, but look how little I had to put in. Get it in as a huge favourite and then 2 outer on the river



*puke* I obviously flopped the nuts and the fish with just a crap flush draw calls off and hits. Unbelievable....



Really?......I have AAxx. I thought turn was great. How wrong was I....



Silly me for not putting them on quads Seems like when it rains, it ****s all over me.



I was feeling a little tilted by this stage. Decided to 3bet in position and called the 4bet as my hand can play pretty well. I obviously flopped the nuts for stacking off and missed it all



One of the big pots which did work out, at the € tables too.



**** I was so tilted at this point. I put in 60+bb with my hand. In fairness I did have blockers and double suited. I flopped the nuts and just hoped I wasn't up against AA or a flush draw. I wasn't! It was all looking so good and then I got stomped.

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Old 06-03-2012, 06:33 PM   #47
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Re: June Beginners Bankroll Thread

This really happened:

Merge - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 8 players
SB: $3.77
BB: $4.64
Hero (UTG): $5.15
UTG+1: $4.00
MP: $0.54
MP+1: $4.53
CO: $7.60
BTN: $4.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has K K

Hero raises to $0.12, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $0.12, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.30, 2 players) 3 9 7
Hero bets $0.20, MP+1 calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.70, 2 players) Q
Hero bets $0.46, MP+1 calls $0.46

River: ($1.62, 2 players) T
Hero bets $1.00, MP+1 calls $1.00

Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
MP+1 shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
MP+1 wins $3.44

At least he played it as poorly as he possibly could have and I lost the minimum.

Hand with some actual content, Villain is 31/17, extremely aggro postflop over a tiny sample, I was pretty sure he was raising a single spade hand on the turn, thought about shoving and then didn't because I'm a wuss and he could also potentially have two pair/a better King:

Merge - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 9 players
UTG+2: $4.00
MP: $4.68
MP+1: $4.00
CO: $3.05
BTN: $5.59
SB: $4.23
Hero (BB): $4.26
UTG: $2.23
UTG+1: $3.64

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has K J

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.04, fold, SB calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, SB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.36, 2 players) 5 3 9
SB checks, Hero bets $0.24, SB calls $0.24

Turn: ($0.84, 2 players) K
SB checks, Hero bets $0.46, SB raises to $1.63, Hero calls $1.17

River: ($4.10, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks

Thoughts?
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:51 PM   #48
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Re: June Beginners Bankroll Thread

The only 2 pair combo that is reasonable is K9, everything he probably isn't gonna have unless hes playing 50%+ hands
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:20 AM   #49
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Hand #2 - I'd probably just fold to turn raise.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:21 AM   #50
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Not much vol today but I spent time going over some theory, started not running terrible after playing poorly and running bad the first half of the day...vamoooo upswing! Most of the regs on rev are pretty awful (though I'm sure they all think the same about me )

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Old 06-04-2012, 11:28 AM   #51
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Wow. Once you go 6-max its hard to go back! So many people look for and give action. Its nice to actually have a decent edge over my opponents at 6NL.

Bit annoyed at tournaments atm. Ran deep yesterday in a 900GTD with 50+ payouts for top 6. Busted in 36 after calling a shove with AK against KJ and well you guys know the rest... A 5 dollar payout just does my head in after 4 hours of play..
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:12 PM   #52
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Wow. Once you go 6-max its hard to go back! So many people look for and give action. Its nice to actually have a decent edge over my opponents at 6NL.

Bit annoyed at tournaments atm. Ran deep yesterday in a 900GTD with 50+ payouts for top 6. Busted in 36 after calling a shove with AK against KJ and well you guys know the rest... A 5 dollar payout just does my head in after 4 hours of play..
Your right, once you have caught the 6max bug, you wont go back!

That said, get used too and love them swings! They will be coming.

Anyway, I think this is a good place to bitch/moan about my bad start to the month - 25NL 6max zoom (Hand no 12k-the end were the result of todays rather brutal excusions in the less than perfect world of online poker. -11.5BI is a record for bad days for me!)





Onwards and upward...
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:21 PM   #53
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zzz....another dire session. Can't seem to run good or even have the best hand hold up. I just got trounced once again and i'm not even doing anything wrong. Got my rakeback today, lost that I must have missed sets so many times I lost count. Only times I did hit them was on mono flops. People played some ridiculous hands and got bailed out numerous times against me, I can't even win playing semi-decently! Thank god I have rakeback because without it i'd be majorly ****ed. Just feel fed up with poker and considering the amount of time i've been putting in playing i'm wondering whether I should bother. Maybe I can just get some good luck and finally get back to winning again as this is getting soul destroying.

So this villain decided to play KKKx, donk bet top set on a mono flop and then decided to go all in. Of course he got there too



So brutal.... I had A697, of course I miss it all. Not sure how villain makes these calls tbh.



gah! Monster flop for me (KQJT) and of course I run into a set and turn has me dead.



*sigh*



A bit of run good with AKJx.



62% for me. Obv not good enough



Just 73%, not good enough again. KQJ6 for me.



So sick...I hate this villain. It tilted me that earlier I stacked off to him pre-flop for 100bb with AQJx vs his AAxx after he limp called a 3bet and then decided to 5bet. Middle set + nut flush draw, just annoys me how good he runs + how bad he plays.

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Thoughts on sizing? Vil is something like 50/0. Obviously I got lucky that he hit the Q but I was planning to overbet the river as I didn't think vil is ever folding a K:

PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $1.77
Hero (SB): $2.37
BB: $2.11
UTG: $0.54
UTG+1: $3.77
MP: $2.30
CO: $0.86

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 7 7

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.08, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.18, 2 players) Q 7 K
Hero bets $0.13, UTG+1 calls $0.13

Turn: ($0.44, 2 players) Q
Hero bets $0.31, UTG+1 raises to $0.62, Hero raises to $2.16 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $1.54

River: ($4.76, 2 players) 5

Spoiler:





And I'm going to get a post-it note next to my laptop saying 'don't play J6!'. Preflop is because BB is a nit and BTN is a fish with a limp-call stat of 0 over 7 samples. Postflop seems standard.

PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: $1.80
UTG+2: $2.00
MP: $0.94
MP+1: $2.30
CO: $2.15
BTN: $2.16
Hero (SB): $2.27
BB: $2.00
UTG: $4.01

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 6 J

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, fold, BTN calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.18, 2 players) J 6 7
Hero bets $0.10, BTN calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.38, 2 players) Q
Hero bets $0.27, BTN calls $0.27

River: ($0.92, 2 players) A
Hero bets $0.70, BTN calls $0.70

Spoiler:
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:19 PM   #55
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Both those hands play themselves, you did fine.

And results from my hand below:

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Old 06-04-2012, 02:28 PM   #56
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Since I started again (26th May)



EDIT- An impressive size image there. Anyone got a good image host with no sign up?
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:46 PM   #57
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imgur is probably the best
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:38 PM   #58
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I had another go tonight. Went up and was back to even on the day. Thinking about quitting and then some beats came. Feeling frustrated I kept going, managed to make it back + a little more. Feels nice to finally win even if it's a token sum.

Tilts me bad...I didn't even want to 4bet it but thought I had to. Soon as villain donks flop I think "omg, he's got KKxx" and he didn't, but still got there vs me 68% for me, my odds a bit better as I have some of villain's outs.



So annoying....I was just trying to iso the short stack. I didn't really want to get in 100bb pre with KKxx. As it turns out I did and I was feeling pretty good on the turn. A on the river I'm 49% favourite pre. 55% on turn.



Biggest hand of the session at € tables. Playing deep with ds KKxx. I hit 2nd nut flush draw + backdoor draw and a K is good for me. I feel sick but I decide to get it in and pray I don't get shown AAxx with diamonds covered or a hand which has me in terrible shape. I was in pretty good shape but just hoped they wouldn't make 2 pair or some ugly beat for me to moan about but fortunately I ran good.



Same villain actually, I ran pretty good vs him. I turned the nuts and nothing bad happened after that. Managed to get a nice river bet on and get called by 2nd nuts.



A bit more run good and things should be going better (hopefully)
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:25 PM   #59
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So i decided to come back to poker only last week, had 10$ on pokerstars. Today bankroll $101 playing solely 5nl zoom poker. Super happy with how I'm playing and of course I'm running quite well. However the 2 biggest pots I've played both I've been sucked out on (KK vs QJ aipf for 20$ and floped flush vs ace high flush draw and he got there for 22$).

Undecided weather to take a shot at 10nl, ill take a shot if i get to $150 by the end of the week.
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finally got a reliable laptop
getting my brains beat out at nlo8 turbo 18-mans
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