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03-25-2017 , 11:44 AM

Laxalt

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 41

Hero: 1,255 (8.4bb)
BTN: 6,660 (44.4bb)
SB: 1,075 (7.2bb)
BB: 1,885 (12.6bb)

BTN was playing fairly loose.

Preflop: Hero has J

Hero raises to 450, BTN calls, SB and BB both fold.

Flop: Q

Hero bets 843.75, BTN calls.

Turn: 6

Hero bets 411.25 and is all-in, BTN calls.

BTN shows 9

River: 8

BTN wins with Three 10s.

Pretty sure I played this whole hand incorrectly post-flop. Looking at it now when I'm not against the clock, I don't see how I thought anything BTN called with was worse than what I had. I also don't like my bet sizings either.

It goes without saying that I am pretty terrible at poker. What do you guys think? How would you have played this?

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03-25-2017 , 11:58 AM

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74,720

I'd have shoved pre and won the blinds

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03-25-2017 , 12:34 PM

nattiecat

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Generally speaking, if your stack is that short you should either shove or fold preflop

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03-25-2017 , 01:12 PM

01010000

stranger

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 3

Post-Flop doesn't matter, because if you don't hit and someome puts pressure on you, you are in a ****ty position because calling will bust you and folding will leave you with even fewer BBs than you already have putting you in an even worse position than you are in this hand.
You played badly pre-flop, not post.
Just shove.

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03-25-2017 , 02:41 PM

Laxalt

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Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 41

Thanks for the replies, lesson learned.

Out of interest, how should I have played this hand if the stacks were deep?

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03-25-2017 , 07:54 PM

ArtyMcFly

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Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 13,256

Are the blinds at 75/150, possibly with antes too?

Don't open for 3x from an 8bb stack (or even a 20bb stack). With this tiny stack, just jam it in.

With deeper stacks (e.g. 30bb), open for 2.5bb or minraise pre, check-call flop.

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03-26-2017 , 07:32 AM

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74,720

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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

Are the blinds at 75/150, possibly with antes too?

No antes. His flop sizing is perfect for no antes at 75/150 if he is just clicking 3/4 pot buttons

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03-26-2017 , 11:26 AM

Laxalt

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Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 41

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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

Yep, 75/150 with no antes.

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Originally Posted by sixfour

No antes. His flop sizing is perfect for no antes at 75/150 if he is just clicking 3/4 pot buttons

Yeah I was just playing online so I tend to click the 3/4 pot button most of the time.

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03-27-2017 , 10:32 PM

HZY91

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Originally Posted by sixfour

I'd have shoved pre and won the blinds

THIS!! you have less than 10 BB and you should be shoving rather than playing this hand OOP. Cause we all know JJ cause trouble. lol but seriously you should have shoved pre.

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03-27-2017 , 11:49 PM

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Duncelanas

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Just play shove fold (except maybe with AA/KK) <10bb. After 3xing, as played this is the easiest flop jam of all time.

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03-28-2017 , 05:19 AM

#11

answer20

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Where did you get the 'extra' 450 chips? .. Doesn't matter, Even at 12 BB this is a shove PF so that you force the B to commit and hope that the other stacks don't wake up with better .. and perhaps hope you are shoving light for a flip.

I suppose you could bet 800 or so PF but with these stacks why let anyone see a Flop without committing? GL

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03-28-2017 , 10:38 AM

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Laxalt

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Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 41

Haha yeah sorry I must have posted my stack on the flop. Thanks for the replies, people.

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03-28-2017 , 11:49 AM

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onehandatatime

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Originally Posted by Laxalt

Thanks for the replies, lesson learned.

Out of interest, how should I have played this hand if the stacks were deep?

what's your definition of deep?

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03-28-2017 , 12:42 PM

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Kelvis

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 8,737

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Originally Posted by onehandatatime

what's your definition of deep?

That's what she said.

Anyways you're playing like 11,5bb and the SB is even shorter so this is nothing else but a shove. Start raising 2x when stacks are above ~15bb instead of shoving.

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