14 hours would drive me insane. Congrats on the $1400 day. Very nice!

You're choosing to barrel with a hand which has no equity at all by the turn and even on the flop there are only very few cards which pick up draws for us on the turn, which are mostly blanks for both ours and villains ranges so are unlikely to help us pick up enough equity to make them good semi-bluffs.

If you can range villain and his actions accurately on each street and think he's folding enough in a vacuum to make it +EV then wp but I highly doubt you can do that and I highly doubt he is.

Also tying into my first point if we are doing this with 22 then we are probably bluffing far too wide. Which in games where we expect people to mostly be making mistakes by calling too much is probably a mistake too.

Feel free to send me a pm with the details when you do set it up. Have had it for a while and never got round to reading it properly.

^^

How can I improve cbetting? I've tried it numerous times by stoving opponents ranges and by analysing what % of their range they're going to fold when I bet (and then do the maths if my betsize was correct) but it seems like there is way too much guessing work involved to ever have a clue if what you're doing is correct...

PS: the hand was played at 5nl zoom, don't know if that changes things

Your flop c-bet is probably find in a vacuum because most people aren't defending enough and most people flat too wide IP preflop. But weak PPs aren't that good of a hand and are pretty close to b/e which means we aren't really doing a huge amount with them post flop on a lot of boards. Which I don't really think is too much of a problem.

Yep, poker is hard. A lot of people are just clicking buttons, myself included. The more you learn and the more study you do the more it'll all make sense. Poker isn't about playing perfectly (i.e being correct) it's about playing better than your opponents.

cool, pm me when it gets going.

So here are 2 (probably trivial) BvB spots where I'm kinda lost... Playing OOP with these very marginal hands feels like a pain in the ass :/ The main problem I have with checking is that the chance I'm going to get bet off my hand is close to 100%, thus not betting feels just way to weak.

And that's what I'm having trouble with: As A PFR when I'm OOP, I almost never x/c and I also don't x/f a lot, both under the assumption that villains are going to float a lot when they're IP. I guess I adjust by putting the lowest hands of my value range in my x/c range and a bunch of very weak hands in my x/f range? But when villains float a lot, it's getting exploitable for me to have a x/f range as a whole? Damn I'm confused.

Anyway, here are the hands. Both of them are zoom.


1) Villain is unknown. What is our plan?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $21.53 (430.6 bb)
BB: $15.06 (301.2 bb)
UTG: $10.06 (201.2 bb)
MP: $5.14 (102.8 bb)
CO: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2 2
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) 9 4 3 (2 players)
Hero ???




2) Again, villain is unknown. What is our plan?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $13.16 (263.2 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $5.01 (100.2 bb)
BTN: $11.64 (232.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 5
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) Q 7 3 (2 players)
Hero ???

Probably betting H1 with equity and checking H2 in a vacuum

To be honest though, until you learn better post flop skills or have a decent sample on villains, no harm in tightening up from SB

x/f both

I'd be check/folding both I reckon, might be some credits to betting w/55 in a vacuum at 5nl zoom.

Check out villains fold to cbet %.
I might turn both of them into bluffs vs nits.
22 - any two cards have 2 overcards vs you. Hard to expect to win at showdown. Board texture is dry, the typical broadway flatting hands miss, unless they float. If villain folds missed JT QT A8o you make profit.
55 - you block 56s 54s, Q is kind of a scare card. Might get enough folds.
Also don't go too in-depth into theory at 5nl, or worry about being exploited.

you cannot c/f the nuts aka 3rd pair HU!!

I would c/c 55 idk how spew that is, but I cannot fold that if I check

How do we have equity in H1? You mean that backdoor SD (and sets obv)? Isn't that a bit too little equity-wise to justify a cbet? And how do we continue? If villain calls, do we fire again?

And thanks for the tightening up tip, I guess I'm a bit influenced by people saying they steal incredibly wide from the SB but I'm probably not good enough postflop to be able to handle those situations.





What's our plan w/ 55 if we get called? Give up straight away? I usually think they're pretty weak even after calling a flop cbet when IP, as they could easily push me around and float super wide in BvB situations (after all, I do the same...)





I'm readless in both hands... And you say "unless they float" and when readless, I'm thinking just that. I was in fact really considering cbetting in H1 and was planning to double barrel as this flop seems perfect for villains to float on (low board => good for their overcards / low pairs and I usually have nothing here), so I thought a DB could throw them off. Would that be a bad plan vs unknown?




Yeah but what's your plan after x/c'ing 55? I'm not going to like most overcards and basically all clubs, so then I'm going to have to x/f turn a lot (assuming that they bet again) no?

They give "rakeback" for this:



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Now that's just not cool. Should give rb for playing those hands.

c/c every non club turn, planning mostly to c/f but will c/raise some rivers

I seriously doubt we have to defend 55. Even like A8 with no bd is a better hand to defend here.

At 5NL, I'm happy to bet once in both spots against exploitable folders, but don't mind check-folding either. That said, check-calling is probably optimal against good players that defend wide vs the initial steal, and I think Bitchi is right about check-calling 55 on some turns too, as villain will bluff one or two streets but rarely three.

Yeah I play too much HU. If BB doesn't defend a very wide range 55 can be c/f as ugly as that is.

Ran so hot for the first month of 2015 hehe

That or im just really really good

January was ****ing ****.

Imploded again, February will be great though, going to be a month of SnGs and MTT's as I comically managed to restrict my cash play entirely, in error, due to a misunderstanding with support.

January started out well but then I had a downswing and broke even for 15k hands vs droolers and tilted abit. Managed to turn it around and ended the month at 22k hands and 11bb/100.

prty rough month . i was up around 9 buyins at 10 NL and then had bad session - lost 6 buyins over 1000 hands.

i built back up and finally got over the $100 mark then a disaster where every big pot i get it in on flop as a 70,80 or > % favorite I lose... 4 hands $70 difference.

then various forms of tilt(not monkey tilt but tilt ntl) i figure cost me 2-3 buyins after that... only up 3.7 buyins now...

also saw a guy playing like a total idiot win 7 buyins in one session... heh

but i must keep going. there is no turning back. forward i go.

played some good ole 1.6/4 at the casino, went +500 CAD after oversetting someone, then getting in 650 aa vs KK, lol I suck

opened preflop 20 with QQ, get 3bet to 75 from utg+2, c/f to a 60% cbet on a22dd villain flips jj???

Went on monkey tilt today, lost like 12BI at zoom. Was shot taking 25nl, lost 4bi and moved down and idk what happened to my brain. I never do things like this usually. So pis*ed at myself. Wouldn't even be playing zoom if i wasn't trying to clear stupid stars bonus. Grrrr!