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08-29-2012 , 10:06 PM

Madsaac

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 669

Not a very exciting hand but trying to understand what 'value' is. Should I have just checked this down?

UTG+1: $20.97 (209.7 bb)
UTG+2: $15.86 (158.6 bb)
MP1: $9.08 (90.8 bb)
MP2: $20.18 (201.8 bb)
MP3: $4.75 (47.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $7.85 (78.5 bb)
BTN: $8.63 (86.3 bb)
SB: $9.45 (94.5 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9

5 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) 3

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BTN folds, BB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.15) T

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.15) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.20, BB calls $1.20

Thanks

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08-29-2012 , 11:05 PM

QuickTwist

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 413

Fold preflop.

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08-29-2012 , 11:24 PM

Cry Me A River

Orange is the new Green

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23,784

Preflop is fine unless you left something out about reads on button and/or SB/BB - Except that you don't have a full stack.

On the river, A) How many hands do you think will call you that you're beating? B) How many hands are beating you? (I doubt any better hands are ever folding).

Is A > B?

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08-29-2012 , 11:28 PM

QuickTwist

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 413

How long were you at the table? Were you blinded off or did you win and loose several pots or something in between?

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08-30-2012 , 12:17 AM

Cry Me A River

Orange is the new Green

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23,784

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Originally Posted by QuickTwist

How long were you at the table? Were you blinded off or did you win and loose several pots or something in between?

It's a cash game. There's no reason to ever be short unless you're employing a short stacking strategy.

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08-30-2012 , 01:01 AM

Madsaac

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 669

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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River

The BB had only ben at the table for 10 or so hands.

I think the preflop action & flop call meant that he had a piece of that flop or a draw

Just a quick breakdown (This is how I break down my hands)

Pocekts - 44, 66, 77, 88 24
Trips - 33, 22, 55 9
Two Pair - 32s, 53s 4

I'm in front of 24 hands and behind 13 so is this a good time to value bet?

I never re-load because I feel it gives me a better understanding of where I'm at.....

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08-30-2012 , 04:55 AM

Widget

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 304

without reads on how much fold equity you have on BTN, SB and BB fold preflop.

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08-30-2012 , 07:23 AM

gamma001

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 4,144

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Originally Posted by Madsaac

I never re-load because I feel it gives me a better understanding of where I'm at.....

You should start auto reloading. Having a shorter stack means you have the slightly adjust your strategy for each new stack dept. Always having 100 or greater is consistent

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08-30-2012 , 07:25 AM

ChrisV

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Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 40,336

Preflop is fine. Folding is fine, raising is fine, absent some sort of read.

I think you played the hand fine. On the turn you should balance between checking back and betting with the intention of triple barrelling the river. He probably hasn't check called and checked the turn with a huge hand here (a set or whatever) because you will be checking back stuff like AJ so often and drawing live. So running a big bluff can't be terrible.

Betting the river is mandatory imo. You are beat pretty rarely and there's heaps of stuff can call you that you beat.

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08-30-2012 , 07:55 AM

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Madsaac

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 669

Thanks for the feedback guys

He had 44

By the way Chris do you play live cash games in Adelaide?

I'm from Sydney and was going to the casino fortnighlty, with the thought of going more regularly. The live games there seemed a bit softer and I enjoy playing live.

The rake is really high, is it the same in Adelaide?

Last edited by Madsaac; 08-30-2012 at 08:02 AM.

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08-30-2012 , 08:14 AM

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ChrisV

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Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 40,336

Nah hardly ever. Only when obscenely drunk.

Rake is terrible for the lower limits and still pretty bad for the top ones.

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08-30-2012 , 08:18 AM

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ArtySmokes

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,999

I think you're a little short to be opening 98o in the CO, unless all 3 players behind you are total nits.
Post-flop looks fine. The bet-check-bet line always looks fishy and you'll often get looked up by ace high, so a half pot value bet with 2nd pair is good.

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08-30-2012 , 08:25 AM

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TheDefiniteArticle

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14,123

Hate cbetting here. You'll be called by most Ax, any pocket pair, and often unpaired overcards (not to mention the unlikely 2x, 3x and 5x). And then you're betting into two people. Just c/f.

And don't worry about balance, you're playing 10nl.

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08-30-2012 , 08:27 AM

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ArtySmokes

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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle

Hate cbetting here.

Actually, you're right. I check this flop, planning to give up as a steal attempt gone wrong. If it gets checked to the river, then you can bet as you nearly always have the best hand.

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09-04-2012 , 12:45 AM

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QuickTwist

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 413

So I'm not getting anyone to disagree with re-loading? This is news to me; I will keep that in mind.

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09-04-2012 , 12:59 AM

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philmcneal

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 602

i personally don't reload, because phil ivey doesn't so why should i? haha

if you feel your "a" game slips every time you lose a big pot perhaps the auto reload feature is not for you

for the grinders who can play a consistent game and want to win the most it is a valuable tool

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09-04-2012 , 01:59 AM

#17

II Player1 II

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 303

Seems fine.
You want to reload though more money in play= more cheeseburgers.

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