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07-17-2017 , 06:16 PM
iPoker - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 63 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 2.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
BTN: 79 BB (VPIP: 10.71, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
Hero (SB): 146.5 BB
BB: 108 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 14.47, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 76)
UTG: 117 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 32)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, BB calls 8 BB, fold

I feel here my hand frequent strength is good enough to call, but with being out of position for rest hand i would rather raise here and look take pot down now or at least go into flop with the initiative.

Once BB calls here the range i gave him was: jj-99 Aqs-Ats kts+ qts+ jts+ Aqo-Ato kto+ qjo
I felt his range would be capped, as with still utg original raiser to act he would want 4 bet his top hands. but opened up his 3 bet call range a little as he has position on me but also is on BB, and people seem defend alot wider on here.

Equity hero 53.99 villain 46.01

Flop: (20 BB, 2 players) J Q 5
Hero bets 7 BB, BB calls 7 BB

Equity hero 66.25 villain 33.75

I felt board was not to overly wet here, and my hand had hit it stronger than his range. I felt like a value c bet was in order but went for a 1/3 pot size. ( thinking if he had hit board hard he would raise me an if he just calls i should be good here.
On my review tho i think this was fatal error, i gave him odds of 3.8:1 and knowing his hand now that gives his direct 4 outs for a straight odds of 10.75:1 needed but with pot odds i offered he only needs to win 49.5 bb for his implied odds and vs my 3 bet range thats good implied odds. then if he counts his aces as outs as well then thats another 3 outs and a runner runner back door flush i think we could give him yet another out here. so a total of 8 outs needing 4.88:1 needing only 7.5bb to break even. even more doable and a definite call.

once he calls his range to me looks like : jj-99 ajs-ats kts+ qjs+ jts ajo-ato kto+
due to a weak raise i feel he can carry on with more speculative hands although his tptk hands and 2 pair hands i feel would raise for value. ( i feel that although i allow his more speculative hands to call with a small flop bet it should be good most of time as it keeps his range wider an gets him put money in pot while behind )

Equity hero 75.07 villain 24.95

Turn: (34 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 34 BB, BB calls 34 BB

Equity hero 59.57 villain 40.43

this turn card hits his range here hard and shows in equity catch up even tho i have 2 pair. This was good for me on review as i didnt notice it while playing. i thought i was even further ahead, i remember thinking A10 is about only thing that can beat us but that cant get here. Although from doing review i find it can. and hopefully now i ll carry this knowledge going forward.
I feel the board has gotten wet and i wouldnt want any more free cards given to drawing hands here and as my relative hand strength is still ok we can go for some thin value/protection here and bet something from 2/3 to pot

Once he calls i give him range of Ats kts+ qts+ Ato kto+

equity hero 48.73 villain 51.77

River: (102 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 61 BB, BB calls 58 BB

equity hero 50 villain 50

i know i dont have large database on him but from what i can see of wtsd and wwsf they were both just below where you d want them as winning player. Feeling like to me he ends at river not always having the nuts.
i feel here if i bet his range that would call would be ats kjs+ ato kjo+
giving 16 combos that beat us 4 combos we draw to and 6 combos we beat.
but if i check call in a situation like this i feel his whole range i gave him after the turn call would bet if he did bet which would give me 16 combos that beat us 4 combos we draw to and 16 combos that we beat. Giving the situation of a check call being even money or 0ev while a bet from me is minus ev
In game i bet tho :/ still learning!

Hero shows Q K (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 42%, Flop 73%, Turn 9%)
BB shows T A (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 58%, Flop 27%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 3 BB
BB wins 203.5 BB

lessons learnt from this either to bet bigger on flop or anticipate hands that i have allowed to continue and not discount them like i did.
and also to find when more combos of better hands will call but i do better by check calling and keeping villains range wider, to keep more combos of what i beat in.

Any feed back on the way i have reviewed this hand would be appreciated. I know ive played hand poorly but getting most out of it is + ev for me in future
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07-17-2017 , 07:09 PM
so let me get this straight, you 3b pre against an utg raiser despite holding a hand where you are completely owned by most sensible ranges, make a really small cbet because we have a pair, click pot button because we now have more than one pair and as such we don't need to care about sizing because the pot button will do that for us, and then jam the river because...
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07-17-2017 , 09:10 PM
against the utg raiser i felt i had a better hand even if he had called he had only min raised utg an had been 3x from there he was also a bit of a fish and i felt i had an edge on him from the play so far.
and yes on the flop i put a small cbet in because i had a pair an thought i was ahead, although the sizing ive listed as a mistake. and on turn i yes i clicked pot i thought i was well ahead at the time but after reviewing the hand i learnt i was not.
i know i didnt play the hand very well thats why i choose it to review. but was hoping for some constructive criticism on my review process.
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07-18-2017 , 03:53 PM
How bad is the BB? He shouldn't be cold-calling the 3-bet with anything offsuit except AK/AQo. Mostly his range for flatting pre is going to be hands that are (in his mind) "too strong to fold, but too weak to stack off", which means a lot of QQ-99, AQs, AJs, KQs, but nothing too weak or with reverse implied odds like KJo or ATo. (If he routinely flats with the latter hands, he's a fish).
Flop is a bit tricky, as you're obviously happy about flopping TPGK, but you're still crushed by AQ, QQ, JJ. Betting small, to keep in hands like TT or AK is fine, but I would tend to slow down on most runouts, for pot-control and to try and get some thin value or to induce bluffs. Villain really shouldn't have many draws (unless he's a fish). Obviously when you turn two pairs, you overtake AQ and QJs, but you're still crushed by sets, and you're drawing almost dead against straights. Some draws (if villain has them) made the nuts.
I'm not sure what you're targeting when you pot it. It's probably better to bet small again, or just check. Even given the ranges you specified, you say that villain has a slight equity advantage. Why are you betting big if villain's range is stronger than yours? The river card is a total blank, but to fire again for value, you need to identify all the hands that don't fold. Are you beating the majority of villain's calling range? If you're not, you're just value-owning yourself.

Without doing a deeper range analysis, I just look at this runout and feel like checking at least one of the streets should be slightly better than firing all three as if you have the nuts. Top two is a strong hand, but it's far from the nuts. You're also way ahead or way behind at several points in the hand. Since villain has some absolute junk (Jx, TT, 99) that can't call off, I think being so aggressive could be costly. Slow down and think about the hands you're trying to get called by.
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07-18-2017 , 06:09 PM
yea hand was a big eye opener really, at first i thought how did he get to turn with a gut shot i couldnt put it in his range but on reviewing it i can see where mistakes i made came from. or thought processes i didnt think of but on analyse saw quite plainly. i ve got a long way to go but i guess as long as i learn from my mistakes. And yes i agree i shouldnt of tried 3 streets of value against his range and how the equity's stacked up thing is ive got learn how do this at table
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