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04-13-2017 , 08:24 PM
I have been playing for around eight years 1/2, 2/5 and sit & go's. A friend posed a very basic question and I didn't have an answer for him. He said:
"is it +ev to play A6os UTG or UTG +2?" My answer was situational: "if the field is mostly aggressive: fold, if the field is mostly passive: call." I simply don't know how to answer this. or how to go about answering this. Anybody?

similarly, lets say I have 74os in the BB and 8 callers b4 me. I know I am getting 16/1 on my money, but I don't know how to calculate what my odds are of winning with 74os against a full table.
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04-13-2017 , 08:25 PM
I'd fold in all the situations you mentioned and I don't think they're close decisions.
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04-13-2017 , 08:43 PM
I agree with Bob148. These don't seem gray at all. Really easy folds.

If it folded to me on the button, I would raise A6o. Other than that, fold. Maybe at some tables I'd consider raising A6o if it folded to me on the CO.
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04-13-2017 , 11:15 PM
From out of position, what flops can you continue with if you are playing A6o? And if you are going to play A6o OOP, calling is not your best move(though limping UTG may leave AA and KK in your range to some players).

I don't understand your second question. If I have 74o in the big blind, and it limps to me, I go ahead and see a flop. There are very few hands I fold here, since I am facing no action.

If you meant the SB, go ahead and fold, as the last thing you want is to be squeezed by the BB. If the BB is known to be weak tight, go ahead and call, but only continue with two pair. Even flopped trips are dangerous with a hand like 74o.
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04-14-2017 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by chip connor
similarly, lets say I have 74os in the BB and 8 callers b4 me. I know I am getting 16/1 on my money
Checking is free.
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04-14-2017 , 08:45 AM
You've been playing 8 years and are still limping A6o UTG?
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04-14-2017 , 04:15 PM
Ok sorry. Correction. 74 in the SB. Not the BB.
I wasnt looking for answers like "clear fold".
But exactly why its a clear fold mathematically.
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04-14-2017 , 04:24 PM
Sorry i meant sb
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04-14-2017 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chip connor
Ok sorry. Correction. 74 in the SB. Not the BB.
I wasnt looking for answers like "clear fold".
But exactly why its a clear fold mathematically.
You are actually getting 17 to 1 assuming BB doesn’t raise, and under any reasonable set of ranges for the limpers you have the showdown equity to beat that. You can verify this with Equilab or Poker Stove. But there are future streets, so the chance you will realize that equity, no matter how small, is practically zero.

Fold unless the gamble challenge entices you.
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