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03-26-2017 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tiltninja
the theme here is tighten your preflop range, especially in early positions at a FR table. The range charts you looked at might apply to 6max, so beware

and don't go crazy with bluffs. your bluff wasn't bad but it wasn't good for many reasons - there's better spots to do it
The range chart I saw was definitely for 9, but, I tend to loosen it up a little bit so I can get the required experience necessary to play better post-flop.

Whilst the stakes are cheap, I want to see every hand enough times for as little expense as possible to fortify (in my mind) why and what I might face later on.

Its true the players here are not as good as they could be, but figuring out ways to worm and slip around them and creating a solid foundation can help me expand my play later on.
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03-26-2017 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 14519
The range chart I saw was definitely for 9, but, I tend to loosen it up a little bit so I can get the required experience necessary to play better post-flop.

Whilst the stakes are cheap, I want to see every hand enough times for as little expense as possible to fortify (in my mind) why and what I might face later on.

Its true the players here are not as good as they could be, but figuring out ways to worm and slip around them and creating a solid foundation can help me expand my play later on.
care to link the range chart that tells you to open 23 from UTG+2?

you're making too many postflop mistakes already. playing worse hands is going to exacerbate that.

you want to establish a standard thought process around every hand, and adjust your ranges, instead of trying to get inside their heads every hand.

in short, you're doing too much. just find out what wins and keep doing it and run up a bankroll
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03-26-2017 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tiltninja
care to link the range chart that tells you to open 23 from UTG+2?

you're making too many postflop mistakes already. playing worse hands is going to exacerbate that.

you want to establish a standard thought process around every hand, and adjust your ranges, instead of trying to get inside their heads every hand.

in short, you're doing too much. just find out what wins and keep doing it and run up a bankroll
Haha! There isn't one that tells me to open 23 from UTG+2! But!

I think I've learned enough to get profit at the microstakes now though, so I'm going to test and see if I can build up a smaller bankroll into a larger one.

I've withdrawn everything but $20.00 from my account and I'm going to see where it takes me, if I can make it into something like $50.00 then I will move up in limit.

I haven't yet made an actual profit from the game so this is a wonderful test.

https://www.boomplayer.com/23263872_068FE5B82B
https://www.boomplayer.com/23263913_337267967C
https://www.boomplayer.com/23263914_F8F1A83A1A

I see my mistakes when I go back over these hands, sometimes I bet when I shouldn't and sometimes I do crazy things.

But I'll work on ironing them out. I think a strive to always improve no matter what is one of the defining features of someone who ends up improving.

Currently sitting on about 26.04 with tournament winnings and that one cash game there.

I suppose I become tighter or more loose depending on how the table treats me initially.. or how I see the players are, if they're playing lots of hands then it's a good table for me but if they're not then I'll switch.
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03-26-2017 , 11:11 PM
Tiltninja, a solid poster for sure is continuously giving you decent advice that's just going in one ear and out the other. You're just very wrong with how you think about the game in ways which he (and I) have repeatedly explained.

Good luck at the tables, but I really wonder what you're doing in this forum if you're going to just ignore all the advice you get from solid winners and continue to spew for no reason when you play.
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03-26-2017 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
Tiltninja, a solid poster for sure is continuously giving you decent advice that's just going in one ear and out the other. You're just very wrong with how you think about the game in ways which he (and I) have repeatedly explained.

Good luck at the tables, but I really wonder what you're doing in this forum if you're going to just ignore all the advice you get from solid winners and continue to spew for no reason when you play.
I'm not ignoring his excellent advice, nor am I ignoring yours! I am putting it all together.

I have a lot of difficulty undoing habits and instinct, more so than your average person which results in me going around the long way. These are difficulties that I face in every area of my life and I can understand your frustration in trying to help someone with these difficulties.

It's me who suffers because of it, but I can promise you that your advice is not wasted and I will revisit it time and time again until it's hammered home.

I wish you luck also, and I'm genuinely pleased that you find continued success on the tables.

PS: You don't have to reply to this in any succinct way if you feel your time is or has been wasted, I have bookmarked this and will revisit it.
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03-27-2017 , 12:32 AM
pretty good actually. I'd like you see you play the 6 hand more aggressively on earlier streets and not shove the river but if it works what can I say? you bet/folded the straight which is something that you'll be doing a lot
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03-27-2017 , 04:11 PM
I don't really have much to add that others haven't already said.. But i can totally relate to a lot of what you're saying. When i first started going to the casino I was so scared of making a bad play.
I used this to motivate myself to learn about the game and get better, and it soon passed.
I'd suggest to just persevere, play small stakes online and build some confidence in what plays are correct
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03-28-2017 , 05:05 PM
I've only skimmed the thread since posting a few days ago. Seems like you're playing way too many hands based on what you've posted and what others are telling you. What you need to realize is that no matter how terribly awful your opponents are at poker, the further you are from the button, the more likely it is that someone will have a playable hand. Many otherwise good postflop players have long since gone broke due to their ignorance of this fact of poker. You probably wonder where those preflop charts in poker books came from. They are the result of what your elders have found to be profitable and unprofitable hands preflop. These charts may differ on the edges, but if they are any good then they should recommend open raising with hands that are profitable preflop. Outplaying your opponent postflop is not likely to happen especially in today's poker environment. Thus opening with some bad hands in order to keep em guessing and out play em postflop is just gonna cost you money.

Get a good recommended preflop chart and commit it to memory. I recommend flashcards to memorize which position is the earliest position from which to play a particular hand. Then once you become a preflop raising and folding machine, you'll start to see spots where you should tighten up or loosen up ON THE MARGINS. This is especially important for reasons that would take a whole chapter in a book to explain. The short explanation is that if you stray too far from what the charts recommend, you're gonna lose money.
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03-31-2017 , 07:46 AM
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Get a good recommended preflop chart and commit it to memory
This is step one. You should do it now, before you do anything else.
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04-03-2017 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 14519
I'm not ignoring his excellent advice, nor am I ignoring yours! I am putting it all together.

I have a lot of difficulty undoing habits and instinct, more so than your average person which results in me going around the long way. These are difficulties that I face in every area of my life and I can understand your frustration in trying to help someone with these difficulties.

It's me who suffers because of it, but I can promise you that your advice is not wasted and I will revisit it time and time again until it's hammered home.

I wish you luck also, and I'm genuinely pleased that you find continued success on the tables.

PS: You don't have to reply to this in any succinct way if you feel your time is or has been wasted, I have bookmarked this and will revisit it.
As a fresh beginner myself, I've been reading this thread avidly. It does also seem to me that even if you're not "ignoring advice" per se. You definitely seem like you are trying and making excuses and create some sort of reasonning and justification for your decisions.

I've read somewhere and took it to heart that "losers find excuses, winners find the means to win"

I wouldn't be able to give any valuable advice regarding to your game here, but to me, it seems that your attitude towards your mistakes may be the main issue, at least from what I gather from this thread. I may be wrong, but you should consider asking yourself this question.

Good luck for whatever next, we all go through that eventually
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